Charlie Wayman

Cheeky b*stards! Pay up or shut up!

I kinda see where you're coming from but as many point out on here if we don't let these high flying promising youngsters leave then raw talent like the two Sam's won't want to join us in the first place. It's a pity that we can't keep them here contractually for at least two years so that we get some benefit as a team from their stay. It's not all about money after all it is also about building a team that can give us success for years to come. It is reported that Lavia has not been pushing too hard for an early exit yet that is exactly what is happening. So one is bound to ask where was the benefit to Saints apart from cash of having him here in the first place? As you say he hasn't added much to the overall team performance and certainly didn't help us avoid relegation. He was a big part of the problem as a regular member of our inept midfield. On the other hand if he stayed for another season he might actually be back to playing in the PL with us and be part of our solution.

Mourinho is the sole reason we got Kyle here in the first place after the special one insulted him about his surname if you recall

Often I find myself agreeing with your observations and James Bree is a case in point. Another invisible showing from him last night suggests that he has little to no future here and being subbed off at HT when most were not more or less confirms that Martin & Co have much the same feelings about him. Poor lad came here at exactly the wrong time and it would be kinder all round to release him from his contract and let him leave on a free to find a new home and new start.

Bearing in mind this was supposed to be a friendly, Bournemouth's physicality was often borderline legal and sometimes arguably criminal; we were extremely lucky to have survived without a serious injury. Their right backs unnecessary assaults on Edozie deserved punishment early on from the ref but he meekly let things carry on. It's a tribute to our youngster that he just kept picking himself up from the floor and carried on without any hint of retaliation or unwillingness to resume the battle👏👏 👏 The other thing of note from the evening was the mind boggling stupidity of the fool who decided that closing Mountbatten Way to traffic on a match night before the game had ended was good idea, when obviously thousand of cars coming in from the West had to make their way home. Presumably some people were still trying to get out of the jams at midnight! As for the match itself, miles in the legs, quite entertaining and many learning points exposed before we are anywhere near the finished article. As for individuals, couldn't understand why Lavia wasn't part of the "main" team fielded in the second half? Irrespective of whether he is going or staying, if you're going to play him at all then play him in a meaningful formation, not amongst the stiffs. I get sick of the verbal abuse of Gavin Bazunu on this forum and one could quite understand why the young lad might have his head all over the place if any of that abuse comes to his notice but honestly if any of his poisoness detractors thinks that MacCarthy is a better alternative then they should surely have got their answer in spades last night. A more appalling display of incompetence and ineptitude would be hard to imagine. What else is there to say about Adams that has not been said already? His lack of effort and involvement will not have endeared him to potential suitors who were likely at St Mary's casting an eye over him. Perish the thought that he doesn't move on and we get stuck with him. 😒

Well if its true only 5000 tickets have been sold for tonight's match and I happen to be one of them, you work it out about loyalties. Anyway, I have a sneaky feeling that you'll be there tonight despite your earlier comment.😉

….and you call yourself a fan? Get off your arse and get up there tomorrow night and sod the Cherries fans.

It's a lot cheaper than the match day ticket at £15 so what the hell are you moaning about? The meanness of some of our supporters beggars belief

Are you kidding? He will stay no doubt about that and will be a superb player for us. Head and shoulders above anybody else we've got and with the right coaching will be a world class CB. Come on if you had to choose between Stephens & Salisu, who would you choose if your livelihood depended on it.

Which is fantastic news. I will be ecstatic if KWP, Salisu, Lavia and Sulemana are still our players in September.

Blimey he does love to talk, I fell asleep after about ten minutes. I hope he said something useful but to me it just sounded like standard audience pleasing claptrap. Still results are always the best remedy for verbal diarrhoea. The stand out was the reference to Romeo (Lavia) playing alongside Charles…… hmmm…. interesting.

Not really, he was affected by the sheer incompetence that surrounded him and no you can't blame KWP for our plight as you imply

Not helped by the fact that nobody has a clue which eleven players will still be on our books to start the match. Dean Hammond is still pretty keen on Saints, maybe we can get him up to match fitness in time?

That's what scares the bejeebies out of me, that we lose Livramento & KWP, now that would be a serious blow. Most of us probably think one or the other to go but not both. Surely we can't let everyone leave? Bree is awful from what we have seen so far. A backline of Bree, Bednarek, Stephens, Manning is the stuff of nightmares.

Everyone off to Saudi Arabia. How long before their league surpasses the Premier League as the "best league in the world". The way it's going it will be awash with money against which Sky might find it impossible to compete. At the moment only second rate players are going their often at the end of their careers but momentum is building and once a few world class stars go there it may be game over for the European leagues.

You said that for the clicks!

More importantly it suggests that SR are sticking to their guns on valuations and will be just as happy to keep the players they want to keep. Could explain also why interest in our star players is waning at least in the sense that there are few rumours about imminent departures at the moment. The pick-up on this might be that under SR the word is out that we are not a selling club. Don't be surprised if JWP, Sailsu and JWP remain Saints players for this season. Being stuck with Stephens & Adam Armstrong is though a real cause for concern.

My day would not be the same without a visit to this thread to read the daily slagging off of Gavin Bazanu. I expect he enjoys reading it a s well. Keep it up lads

…and so say all of us but it won't be easy to move on players on lengthy contracts who have no offers from elsewhere. We can't just pay off those contracts. Incidentally has anyone else noticed all the arms around shoulders love-ins going on with Prowsey, Sailsu and the coaching staff? Is that the beginning of the new process and Wilcox making sure everything possible is being done to persuade these two lads to stay?

Music to the ears. 'Alignment' may be the new buzz word but Ralph's playbook was introduced at all levels in the Club so there's nothing new there really. Singing from the same hymn sheet clearly is not the be-all and end-all of successful football management. Hopefully Jason Wilcox has nouse that can't be translated into words emanating from his many years along side Pep and his team. In the end it comes down to people and often individuals who just know the right way of doing things.

Bad as many perceive him to be Lyanco is still light years better than Stephens. People forget very quickly how awful Stephens is. If we end up with him as first choice alongside Bednarek we can kiss goodbye to any promotion hopes this season

It isn't and it will take time. Obviously the players are trying to get used to the idea of one touch passing but at the moment it is painfully slow and that surely is obvious to all. Player 1 looks around for colleague in good safe position - passes slowly and carefully - player 2 receives ball - looks around - cogs whirring - passes slowly and carefully to another colleague in a good safe position and so on. One hopes in time it will be an automatic process with players always aware where their colleagues are and the manoeuvres executed at pace. To be fair it must be a challenging time for the coaching staff to try to teach this system to players many of whom probably won't be here much longer. So not only is it in part wasted effort but the wannaways and misfits are probably more than a tad half hearted and disinterested in making the whole shebang work anyway. They'll go along with it whilst they are here if only to get their fitness and sharpness levels up to snuff so they are ready to challenge at their new clubs. As soon as possible Martin must decide who he wants to stay and who will have to go and importantly who will leave for PL clubs. When he has this information then he can better select teams more representative of the XI that will take the field against The Owls. Ideally he should do this before the Reading game but certainly before the home friendlies at St Mary's. It'll take guts to tell players where they stand especially those that he perceives as having no future here but the nettle must be grasped urgently.

It will be the mid-weekers on a cold and blustery November evening that will sort it out. Especially if we are not setting the division alight I can see only about 15,000 hardy souls bothering to turn out.

Could be a smoke screen or more likely an indication that JWP is pretty low on their list of priorities. If the latter then I can't see much of a future for the lad there. Bloody insulting really. Then again it might have been all agent talk from the start.

Nice try! If we had had a clause in Adams' contract that he couldn't leave until he'd scored 30 goal for us, we'd end up having to pay his pension.