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Sheffield Weds 1-2 Saints - Match Thread
Charlie Wayman replied to Yorkshire Saint's topic in The Saints
I thought we played extremely well last night and bearing in mind how little time the players have had to adapt to this new style of football and recalling how slow and ponderous was our passing in the friendly matches only a week ago, the slickness of our game last night was a revelation. Surely things can only get better given stability and practice. By far our outstanding player was Kyle Walker Peters who was here, there and everywhere giving and taking passes and instinctively being in the right place at the right time to keep things moving. He was instrumental in setting up both our goals and I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned this. A beautiful lay-off to Tella for the first and a highly perceptive defence splitting pass to the running JWP for the second. His partnership with Nathan Tella looks far more than promising on the right. Of the three players most likely to leave from our starting XI it is he KWP that we can least afford to lose on this showing. We have quality on the bench and quality in recuperation. Sulemana and ABK are certain starters when fully fit and up to speed and Perraud if he stays is at least as good as Manning and probably a far better left side partner for Edozie. Manning was not effective in working with the young lad last night and often left his left side partner isolated. The idea of Stuart Armstrong & Charley Alcaraz vying for one position is a bit worrying, good luck to Martin on keeping both of them sweet. Norwich will be a much sterner test. We will have much less time on the ball simply because they will be far less naive about pressing the opposition and closing down their options. The irony of last night was that there was only one new recruit in the team from the side that were relegated last month. They weren't then good enough for the PL so if nobody leaves and they get us promoted will they be good enough for the PL next time? -
Why? We know nothing about him. We'll soon have more coaches than players.
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Sheffield Weds 1-2 Saints - Match Thread
Charlie Wayman replied to Yorkshire Saint's topic in The Saints
Not a chance mate! Lavia & Livramento in. Adams Out PS I should have gone to Specsavers [re: Kraken] -
B*gger me! Jack Stephens…. new contract?…. probable captain? This Club never ceases to amaze me on its accelerating journey to ineptitude and obscurity.
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If we are bottom of the league at Christmas they can pretend we are on the top!
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I have a different view of Adam Blackmore since his candid revelations of his lifelong mental health issues in a recent radio interview. In this case it was probably only an off he cuff mark like the ones we all make in a generalised conversation. It didn't mean he just found out that day, just something that he had known about for a while as part of a general chat about SFC.
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A bit fanciful that our football of the past 3/4 years will have attracted many PL "hangers on" who've dropped out because of relegation. Pay as you go is still cheaper if you factor in that it is almost impossible to attend all games through other commitments, illness etc that crop up inevitably during the course of a year. Anyway there are no decent tickets left for people who want to come back in or new starters.
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Sheffield Weds 1-2 Saints - Match Thread
Charlie Wayman replied to Yorkshire Saint's topic in The Saints
If Martin picks our strongest team for Friday as things stand now there are going to be some vey disappointed players around the camp by the weekend. Bazunu Livramento Bednarek ABK KWP JWP Lavia Alcaraz S Armstrong Tella A Armstrong -
Pretty sure he was taking the piss.
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Not obvious at all. Neither seems in a hurry to leave and as SR seem resolute in sticking to their own valuations there is absolutely no pressure for hem to do so. Chances of them still being here in September are better than 50/50 in my view. Expect both to start on Friday. If Perraud stays then move KWP to AMF or even left wing. From what I have seen of Manning so far he is going to have to work very hard to displace either KWP or Perraud.
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Bit of a dilemma for the Club, do they keep him in the first team squad mostly on the bench or give him another year in the B Team to sharpen his skills with regular football. I'd go for the latter personally, he has a lot to learn yet.
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Shame only 7.5k turned up at St Mary's on such a beautiful day. Very entertaining football and a million miles away from Tuesday clogfest that was AFCB. Great to see Jordie Classie again and brilliant reception for the lad. Obviously a training exercise and part of the process for both teams but our weaknesses were exposed yet again. We do not move the ball around quickly enough and we do not seem to want to play on the front foot with proactive movement. Far too often we react to play rather than shape the play the way we want it. I lost count of the number of times our players passed to a teammate then stopped running rather than run into a space on the pitch to anticipate and receive the next pass. This is why every promising move breaks down before the ball is moved onto the attacking line. A few takes from the match; KWP is infinitely more effective on the left than the right and probably better in midfield than full back. Manning is not ready to be a starter and is not an improvement on Perraud. Stephens is a poor reader of the game and ponderously slow. Adams can't help being Adams. Surely no PL club will come in for him on this form despite the rumours. He's going to be hard to shift out the door. Lyanco's passing is improving and he actually had a decent match. Good to see Bazunu back again and looking confident. I like his athleticism. He will. be a great keeper one day.
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Probably too subtle for you to understand.
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Are you seriously advocating and condoning violence on the football pitch?
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I don't know how bright or sensitive the Tella lad is but an offer of only £9m from a club that he did well for last year and purports to see him as a key figure in their future plans is such a personal insult that really it should be the end of any relationship he had or imagines he had with the northern club. If Saints value you at £20m, Nathan, it's not rocket science to work out who wants you most. Clear your head and see it for what it is.
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What goes up must also come down. So who do you think will be coming down next May? My monies on Luton, Sheff U & Fulham with Palace just about surviving but it's a toss up between the two London clubs. Our wannaway players should bear this in mind 'cos we won't be offering them a lifeline if they pick the wrong club now.
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Cheeky b*stards! Pay up or shut up!
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I kinda see where you're coming from but as many point out on here if we don't let these high flying promising youngsters leave then raw talent like the two Sam's won't want to join us in the first place. It's a pity that we can't keep them here contractually for at least two years so that we get some benefit as a team from their stay. It's not all about money after all it is also about building a team that can give us success for years to come. It is reported that Lavia has not been pushing too hard for an early exit yet that is exactly what is happening. So one is bound to ask where was the benefit to Saints apart from cash of having him here in the first place? As you say he hasn't added much to the overall team performance and certainly didn't help us avoid relegation. He was a big part of the problem as a regular member of our inept midfield. On the other hand if he stayed for another season he might actually be back to playing in the PL with us and be part of our solution.
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Mourinho is the sole reason we got Kyle here in the first place after the special one insulted him about his surname if you recall
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Often I find myself agreeing with your observations and James Bree is a case in point. Another invisible showing from him last night suggests that he has little to no future here and being subbed off at HT when most were not more or less confirms that Martin & Co have much the same feelings about him. Poor lad came here at exactly the wrong time and it would be kinder all round to release him from his contract and let him leave on a free to find a new home and new start.
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Bearing in mind this was supposed to be a friendly, Bournemouth's physicality was often borderline legal and sometimes arguably criminal; we were extremely lucky to have survived without a serious injury. Their right backs unnecessary assaults on Edozie deserved punishment early on from the ref but he meekly let things carry on. It's a tribute to our youngster that he just kept picking himself up from the floor and carried on without any hint of retaliation or unwillingness to resume the battle👏👏 👏 The other thing of note from the evening was the mind boggling stupidity of the fool who decided that closing Mountbatten Way to traffic on a match night before the game had ended was good idea, when obviously thousand of cars coming in from the West had to make their way home. Presumably some people were still trying to get out of the jams at midnight! As for the match itself, miles in the legs, quite entertaining and many learning points exposed before we are anywhere near the finished article. As for individuals, couldn't understand why Lavia wasn't part of the "main" team fielded in the second half? Irrespective of whether he is going or staying, if you're going to play him at all then play him in a meaningful formation, not amongst the stiffs. I get sick of the verbal abuse of Gavin Bazunu on this forum and one could quite understand why the young lad might have his head all over the place if any of that abuse comes to his notice but honestly if any of his poisoness detractors thinks that MacCarthy is a better alternative then they should surely have got their answer in spades last night. A more appalling display of incompetence and ineptitude would be hard to imagine. What else is there to say about Adams that has not been said already? His lack of effort and involvement will not have endeared him to potential suitors who were likely at St Mary's casting an eye over him. Perish the thought that he doesn't move on and we get stuck with him. 😒
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Well if its true only 5000 tickets have been sold for tonight's match and I happen to be one of them, you work it out about loyalties. Anyway, I have a sneaky feeling that you'll be there tonight despite your earlier comment.😉
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….and you call yourself a fan? Get off your arse and get up there tomorrow night and sod the Cherries fans.
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It's a lot cheaper than the match day ticket at £15 so what the hell are you moaning about? The meanness of some of our supporters beggars belief
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Are you kidding? He will stay no doubt about that and will be a superb player for us. Head and shoulders above anybody else we've got and with the right coaching will be a world class CB. Come on if you had to choose between Stephens & Salisu, who would you choose if your livelihood depended on it.