Charlie Wayman

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Fools paradise. If only, if only, if only…………….. If only everyone on the planet could live in peace and harmony, global warming didn't exist and nobody was starving to death. Time to stop making excuses and face reality chum!

No two ways about it this was a bloody awful performance. The sheer ineptitude of our players beggars belief. Do they learn nothing in training? With the exception of Bazunu who had nothing to do, none of our players can be pleased with their performance today. There is zero chance of Saints gaining promotion with this bunch of coaching clowns.

RM occasionally talks absolute b*ll*cks at his PC's, often ideas that pop into his head on the spur of the moment. Of course Alcaraz should play and will want to play the day after he was called up by his country. He'll feel like a million dollars and will want to share his success with his fans.

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My thoughts as well. Was Adam the only media rep one there? That's two weeks in a row with questions only from him. He doesn't really ask questions as such just sets up prompts for Russell Martin to engage in aimless waffle. It's becoming a right old snooze fest.

That's the main worry and it also alerts bigger clubs. No doubt he is being monitored by them anyway so this recognition especially if he gets game time and does well will hasten his inevitable departure.

Most will soon be rainbow stripes.

Are you serious? Why draw attention to how long ago it was that we last won a senior trophy. Besides which 90% of the City's under 30's will never have heard of him.

We already have our future Saints manager.

I expect their fans are saying exactly that about Smallbone. Hope he will oblige!

Really "gaffer" should play an unchanged XI even if it means hooking SArmstrong and Alcaraz at HT. Keep the momentum and morale high, they and Sullywill want to play and they will be way more effective from the get-go when it is still 0-0.

Faint praise indeed. Straight from the "we only beat poor teams" book of quotes!

Especially if we offload that useless prat Adams.

So what do they say? I spent some time there year's ago but can't remember the local dialect.

WELL DONE LADS!

I think they are training tops for the warm up only, not match shirts as such. Waste of money! 90% of fans either won't be in their seats during the warm up or concentrating on polishing off their pasties to take much notice.

Martin is probably Wilcox's responsibility. As Wilcox was not part of the Ankerson induced managerial fiasco of last season expect him to be more circumspect about managerial shortcomings and new appointments than we fans. My guess is that Martin will be given at least a dozen games to prove his metal. If nothing improves after that then he will go. I remain unconvinced that SR are really expecting promotion this season or probably next. Things may have to get a lot worse before we take a turn for the better. Our kids need a couple of years at least to mature and there is still plenty of deadwood to be cleared.

You cannot be serious!

That simply is not true. Who disliked him? People disliked the way that Nigel Adkins had been treated but there was no animosity towards Maurizio, just the opposite in fact.

That's the most interesting thing I've read on this thread. Keep it up.

Seems you have to be Scottish or Irish to become undroppable under Martin or at least of Celtic origin.

Are you sure you understood the context of my earlier submission? If you read it thoroughly you will have seen that it is no way contradictory to what I have posted today. My point was that many fans on here thought the Championship would be a doddle and we would win it by right. I was pointing out that it was far from a doddle and that we might find it a lot harder than some thought to get out again. The same point is made in my latest post.

The 8-0 demolition of Sheff U by Newcastle yesterday shows exactly what would happen to Saints next season if by some miracle this bunch of players and their hapless manager somehow managed to scrape promotion this season. Our squad of transfer window rejects, other team's cast offs and raw kids who have potential but little real world experience is nowhere near fit for purpose judged by this season's performances and suggests we are a million miles away from rebuilding and honing a side fit to survive in the PL. We should be fearful of the fact that last season's top three are now this season's PL bottom three. It serves to teach us that the rebuilding project at Southampton is going to take a lot longer than the one or two seasons promised from above and expected by some fans. Many on here but not me exclaimed that they were looking forward to life in the Championship as a welcome respite from our endless failures in the PL. They have their wish and it looks increasingly likely that Saints will be in this league for quite some time. At the moment we do not have good enough players or a good enough manager and coaching staff. It will take time and a lot of money to put that right. The point of me saying this is to limit your expectations of what can be achieved against more ambitious clubs like Leeds. On current form a 0-0 draw would be an excellent result.