Charlie Wayman

After the Doncaster game following rumours of Wilde leaving early, I suggested that perhaps he had had enough and left in disgust and was ready to confront Low about Poortvliet. This is what has come to pass. After the Tuesday meeting Lowe more or less said that Poortvliet's job was not an issue 'TODAY' (i.e., at the Tuesday meeting). I took that to mean that Wilde HAD made it an issue of HIS support for Lowe. Well, well, so by Friday Poortvliet was out. It was in fact easily predictable from the facts to hand this week. What all you guys need to recognise is that Lowe is no less vulnerable to letting cats out of bags incautiously in interviews as anybody. He has no special gifts to avoid landmines and knows that, which is why he often stays silent. Damned if he speaks, damned if he doesn't. Given that we now have proof that Wilde has the puppets strings in his hands it is pertinent to ask what next from him. I do not expect him to change sides again and back Crouch but neither do I expect him from now on to cede control of the football side to Lowe. He will want Lowe to concentrate on the Business and my guess is he'll get MacMenemy back on the football side. rumours of Crouch at SMS could well be at the request of Wilde to mend a few fences and use crouch's good relationship with mac to try and persuade mac to come back and work alongside Lowe for Wilde. Remember Politics is the Art of the Possible This shows that Wilde does have internal power to change things but will still back Lowe over Crouch IMO.

So, nothing has changed at all, we will still be playing kissy-kissy ball and running around like headless chicken Dutch-style. We are most certainly further up sh*t* creek than anybody imagined and the tide has gone out so there's no way back. Wotte an Effing c**k-up

Who can we afford that could save us from the drop.. Curbs? We want curbs!

Not before time but when will Lowe follow him? The only way is up!

I'd love to attend but the heavies probably won' let me in as I sold my shares when Lowe returned. What d'ya think, just turn up and blag it out?

Going into Administration allows a period of time for the company to try to find a buyer whilst all other day-to-day business activities continue. A buyer would have to make arrangements to take over the company's debts as well as buy the club so it isn't just a case of (any one person) buying the company for a quid, the £27.5m debt is not written off at this stage. Only if a buyer is not found during the administration period does the company pass into the hands of a receiver when all creditors will form an orderly queue to gain what recompense they can from a sale of the company's assets, i.e., players, buildings etc. We st holders will be creditors and will have to join the queue. If a new company is then formed to buy and operate the football team even if they have to play at Millbrook recreation ground, we ST holders will be back to square one and have to pay all over again to watch the new team.

What would we say that could make a difference? They need wise opinion rather than abrasive rhetoric after all, all Football Club chairmen are self -serving bigots so there's nothing new there to say.

It's not as easy as some of you guys imagine. SMS Gates in the Third Division will average 8000 tops and usually less. No good looking at Leicester as an example, that kind of wishful thinking inflicted us for two years when we came down from the Prem and look where reality has landed us.

I'm not quite sure what we have done in our lives that has been so unforgivable as to have had Lowe foisted upon us not just once but twice?

It may be that Wilde has told Lowe that he no longer has his backing and Cowan has whispered in Lowe's ear. Will Wilde force another EGM or will Lowe go quietly once he realises that he could no longer win a majority vote - but, and it's a BIG BUT do we want Crouch back either? Wilde certainly wouldn't back him. Maybe with Lowe out, Cowan would be a good compromise chairman?

Well, considering that Portaloo thought taking off a central defender when we were 1-0 down was a brilliant strategic move, it is only logical to conclude that he will be very comfortable without a goalkeeper. I am absolutely amazed that Poortaloo is still in the UK, I thought he'd have Effed off back to Holland after the excruciating embarrassment of Saturday's inept fiasco. Obviously the bloke is bereft of pride, moral fibre or ideas on how to succeed in English football.

Not impressive for sure, a typical Northern big boot, small brain job like Rooney, Gerrard. Ah Well! Total Football was always a fantasy anyway.

I am amazed that we have gotten this far into such a disastrous season before the anti-Lowe singing has started up. I was delighted that fans had found at last their voices and Dunkerque spirit. To me, prior to Saturday, for all the world it looked like fans have been so demoralised by events in the boardroom and on the pitch that they had given up totally on saints and were so indifferent to their plight that they found it easier to stay away and forget that SMS and Lowe even existed - and who can blame them in this deepening economic crises in which many have uncertainty over their own job and financial security gnawing away at their emotions? The last thing we want are SILENT FANS at soccer matches. I want rid of Lowe but have no way of bringing this about except by ramming home the message of the deep and irrecoverable antipathy towards him and his cronies. The only other option for me is to tear up my ST once and for all, ignore all future please for early-bird discounts and stop watching football at SMS as an entertainment fro ever - and this is waht it comes down to after 60 years.

In many ways Crouch and Lowe are cut from similar cloth, they are both egotistical, self-serving bigots who have their own interests very much at the forefront of their thinking rather than what is good for Southampton Football Club. As it happens the majority on here seem to find it easier to empathise with Crouch. Unfortunately, this may just be down to the old hatreds and "anybody but Lowe" prejudice, which is understandable given Lowe's evident inability and unwillingness to recognise that supporters are not just customers and Supporters are as much Stakeholders in SFC as he. Since there has been no recorded evidence of a single Leopard ever transforming itself into a Cheetah through some miracle of nature that so far has not been explained, it must be concluded that we have seen the best and worst of both Lowe and Crouch and both have been found wanting as far as providing leadership and vision for our club is concerned. We need to rid ourselves of both and their acolytes and embrace a new regime and a root and branch overhaul of the entire business before there is any hope at all of re-uniting the supporter base

Players don't return to their old clubs, period! There's too much ignominy involved on all sides. Anyway, if he's crap at Fulham why would he be less than crap here?

Obviously Redkrapp doesn't want him around so the money we got for him is beginning to look like a good deal. He could never defend even when here, I think people were fooled into thinking he was great 'cos he was good at stroming up the left side to the bye-line, but little ever came of it and the result nearly always was to leave his side of defence completely exposed. It probably also serves to remind other clubs that despite all the bull**** rhetoric coming down from SMS towers about the quality of our youngsters, they probably aren't all that great and certainly not stars of tomorrow, which is why nobody is being suckered into paying daft wedges for Lallana and Surman who at best are good journey men

Well, one theory of what is happening economically is that everyhting is unravelling irreversibly so everyone will lose their jobs within three years and everyone with a mortgage will be repossessed and nobody will be able to keep themselves warm or pay their council tax and only the government will have any money and not very much of it and the only food we'll get will be from soup kitchens on every street corner. It is possible that the whole global financial system has been illusory from the start, has suddenly reached a tipping point and is now collapsing like a pack of cards simply because it was never sustainable at any level. It only stayed balanced upright by the act of constantly maintaining instability by feeding in more and more credit and now there is more world debt than world resource so credit has become meaningless as it is unsecured. Oh sh*t, I think I'll give Doncaster a miss!

When Stoke come down next year they'll all be ex-Saints, ex-Stoke

When you read that the prem clubs have a combined debt of £1.8 Billion and Barclay's are not that likely to renew their Title sponsorship, you wonedr if Lowe is just making a mountain out of a mole hill over our measly £4.9m loss? The SMS is mortgaged like your house and mine so why would it be called in anytime soon as along as the monthly payments are met? Perhaps I smell something putrid in the scary stories that are being fed us most of the time by the Lowe Propoganda machine? Keep it bubbling Andrew and they won't find me out.... ?

It makes him feel like Mr Big! Otherwise, who else would ever give him the time of day?

Rudi & Kevin are our last links with real world football and they are both class acts. I woldn't blame eithet of them for moving on now. With at least 4 ex-Saints in their line-up, Stoke have, if only temporarily reminded us all of just how far the Club but not it's ex-stars have fallen away from the premiership.

If only it was that easy.

Too cold for me so couldn't be arsed to go and freeze my B's off just to see Maunure at 1/5 th strength take the Mick. Two tickets wasted but that's my season

Had you stopped to think about next season? Pompey look to be the this year's unexpected relegation candidate and are likely to go down with WBA and Stoke.. and hige financial problems (Are you there Harry? ... Harry? ... Harry?) BUT... we won't be there to greet them... ! How Ironic will that be? Another season and the burgers will still be a league above us. Life just isn't fair

One of he really important points about today's performance was that especially in the first half, we played far better football and created more chances WITHOUT Surman or Lallana then we ever do with them playing. Could it be that since all the talk about this pair being megastars the rest of the team usually just sit back and leave it to them to sort out? Maybe after all they are not quite the friggin' great dog's cajones that we are led to believe they are; if we can offload them for some serious mullah then maybe it's a win, win, win for us? Today, also, Jan became animated. It's taken but half a season but we seem to be witnessing some progress? Dutch people are renowned throughout the world for being so laid back that they are usually horizontal even when sitting upright, so it must have taken something pretty huge to shake him from his torpor. What did Wupert put in his Christmas Pud?