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Look guys, make sure to take your binoculars along tonight as we've been turfed out of the Itchen - only Kingsland and Northam open - so we won't get to see all the comings and goings in the director's box or hospitality boxes. Even' bet there will be some managerial hopefuls along.... If Phil Brown shows up put the word around so that we can all leave! "What is brown etc.... Or, chant out the names of any you see so we can all get in on the act
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We are clearly modelling ourselves on Chelsea and Man C. Just look at the sins that Hughes and Mourinho committed, like winning titles, not conceding goals and winning 1-0 most weeks. It wasn't that they were not playing winning football but their teams lack of style in winning was 'what done for them'. Although we know this to be a results driven business, clearly results are not all that matters. Entertainment is equally important; many on here have failed to spot that on average we are not playing to anywhere near capacity gates at SMS - as Norwich did last year for example - and this would be a BIG worry for Cortese and his henchmen. The manager's job is not only to win football matches but fill stadiums as well; for sure we will not fill SMS with hoof-ball from Davies, slowing the game down every time we are in possesion and aimless square passing. It will be this as much as results that will have hastened the end of Alan Pardew. It's a shame he's gone because in my view he would have got us promoted this year for sure but clearly if we have to earn a penny before wes pend a penny tne it is obvious he wasn't doing that well enough and hence the lack of transfer activity. Best wishes Aln and better luck next time 'though Randy Lerner may not be particularly tolerant either. Maybe better for you in the long term to get a proper job
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It'll be Sven Goran Erikson, prviouly of Notts County ame - if he is willing to do th eFourth Division, he'll jump at the Third. Then none of your sisters will be safe!
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But what would you have said after Rochdale beat us 2-0 next Saturday under Pardew? I don't agree with you at all, lots of people have been calling for Pardew's head for months, now they've got it. Sooner rather than later is good for the club if we want it to progress. Let's face it we are not playing very attractive football most of the time and I for one am fed up with long aimless balls up to their box. I suppose a few players will bugger off now that Pardew is out but there are better ones around and Cortese has made sure that he didn't give Pardew more money to squander.
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Hate to say "told you so" in any case most of you probably didn't read my two comments last week; (i) A very closely connected ex-player hinted to my pal that Pardew was 'on his way' (ii) Pardew's coldness towards Guly suggested to me that Guly was appointed by Cortese and not Pardew - suggesting Pardew was no longer in charge of recruitment. Ah well, we old lads don't always get involved in the rumour rounds but we do have enough savvy to understand how these things work and what is a real story and what is not.
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Makes you wonder if he has fully recovered from the pre-season injury that helped fuel the debate about him leaving the club. It will be a test without him but if we are good enough to win it then we should expect to be able to cope with the inevitable absences during the season of Lallana and Schneiderlin through injury or red cards
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Bristol Rovers (0) V (4) Saints,Post match wooting..
Charlie Wayman replied to saint lard's topic in The Saints
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I think you are quite right in your prognosis of the state of affairs at the club. Everything has changed despite the reassuring rhetoric emanating from up stairs. Cortese may not feel the same way about Saints now that Marcus has passed away - in fact he may never have been as fanatical as Marcus but was prepared to do his master's bidding. Although he is wise enough not to be disrespectful to Marcus' legacy and quit immediately it must be a realistic consideration after a decent period of time has elapsed. In which case he will want to leave a legacy of a sound business free of debt and unnecessary cash flows such as additional wages for decent players. It will ease his way out leaving fans on a high note and more importantly raise the stakes for bidders in a sell-off of Saints. The present squad may be good enough to take us out of this mess called L1 as you suggest but would not be good enough to get us much further. Nevertheless, if we are on a good course by the end of the year, it will prove that we didn't need more players and Cortese may feel ready to hand over the baton to a new owner whose job it would be to rebuild the team once we are in the nPC. Every one is a winner and we will all feel good again - provided of course that Rupert Lowe does not leap from the bushes with £25million to buy the club.
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Correction mate, we battered their second team, which would be about lower nPC level. Get real!
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What is the difference between a prediction and a lucky guess? Can you make a WRONG prediction? We need to do some work on semantics.
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Surely, the Club have to pay the police to attend matches so presumably this was not an initiative of the boys in blue. If anybody has a problem with it why not get onto Club Security and ask a few direct questions about human rights and so on? Innocent fans have a right to be indignant and concerned at this incident; questions need to be answered. Of course if you tell the blue lad to stick his camera up his tunic (ever so politely) you'll be in trouble for harrassing him but it shouldn't be like that. Innocent until found guilty but guilty of what - calling a referee a winker?
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Maybe it's me but did anybody else notice during Pardew's comments pre-Bolton on Tuesday night the detached and emotionless way in which he referred to Guly when describing how he would fit into the team? Very unenthusiastic would be my interpretation, which led me to think that maybe the Italian connection has come to the fore once again. Was this the work of Corteses and his pals in Italy? Maybe Cortese is now deciding who comes in and not Pardew? You never know, maybe he takes the view that very few of Pardew's buys have been a huge success. Shades of Delgado and Lowe...
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Good to watch. OK, Bolton played their second string and we matched them but it was mainly Brit players v Brit players; if foreign imports had never happened this would have been a good measure of where we are. However, Bolton 2nd XI as seen last night will be about lower nPC level, if we do what we are supposed to do this season that's where our level is as well - so, no surprise at all that we about matched them but couldn't best them. What Buit the reality check for us in the Itchen was how far removed we are now even from the 'survival' level of the Premier League e.g., Fulham or Everton. Coyne's post match remarks were chilling when he said the CC competition begins seriously in the next round, suggesting that Bolton were strolling last night using the opportunity to get some of their second string match fit - and we still couldn't match them! Pardew seems to be seeing some very positive signs from this game. I'm not so sure, plenty of the same old flaws but Mills and Chamberlayne look like good prospects on their late showings. Rumours linking Lallana to Bolton won't have been assuaged by his 90 mins of daring-do - part of the courtship intended to impress Bolton even more? Come and get me in January?
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What a load of old bull****e! Why these blokes expect us to swallow this crap is beyond me. If this spiel is a measure of his football quality as well don't raise your hopes too much. At least we can be honest and say "Who???" TFIH?
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Slight correction "We are nowhere now!" "Playing the waiting game" is a not too subtle euphomism for the reality of our situation that the effing idiots who pass themselves off as scouts haven't got an effing clue about who to buy or which positions need filling! Either Pardew has targets or he has not. What on earth is the use of picking up any old player who just happens to have been released by a higher division club, whatever his pedigree. FFS we are supposed to be building a team to storm this league not just than handing out a set of kit to any bloody journeyman who happens to take the King's shilling? Somebody please tell me it's only a dream.
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Southampton 1 - 1 Leyton Orient - Post match reaction
Charlie Wayman replied to Baj's topic in The Saints
Today's 'word' from somebody who is friends with a former-player is that Pardew may be on his way. Don't shoot the messenger! -
Not very helpful Mike, as you must realise real life isn't like that. Most people won't walk 20 yards to use a crossing. What is wrong is to knee-jerk to immediate conclusions about any links between this accident and the decision to allow normal traffic flows along Northam Road. The accident may or may not be related to non-closure. Pray for the lad's recovery...
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Southampton 1 - 1 Leyton Orient - Post match reaction
Charlie Wayman replied to Baj's topic in The Saints
You'd have to say on balance this was a woeful performance from players who are supposed to be the envy of this league, truth is we are just not good enough to win this league or gain promotion despite all the pre-season hype and bookies nonsensical odds. The only lad who acquitted himself well today was Lee Barnard and typical of Pardew no prizes for guessing who got taken off? Not his poster boy of course nor that cretin Puncheon. We struggled just like this last August, then it was blamed on the 10 points deficit being a 'mountain to climb'. What are the excuses going to be this time? Now if I was Cortese, I'd be clicking on 'Contacts" this evening. I remember Third Division football from the fifties and sixties and this is just like those days when you realise how difficult it will be to escape from it. -
We should walk it, starting with a 5-1 win over Orient tomorrow and a 3-0 thrashing of Bolton on Tuesday. This league will be a cinch. The Carling Cup will be ours for the taking! Bring it on!
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The non-Marcus Tribute thread for thrashing out stuff
Charlie Wayman replied to Secret Site Agent's topic in The Saints
Quite! Some rivalries, jealousies and old scores about to be settled? Will he last long? Probably not, if fans of 'The Godfather' are to be believed! -
Rather more than a few I'm afraid. Very little hope now of new permanent signings, in my view, after the sad events of the past two weeks even the future direction of our club must be open to question. Whatever assurances to the contrary have been given by "spokespersons' for the Liebherr family, the reality is that we are now under new ownership; the passion that Marcus brought with him that would have guaranteed funds to buy as and when necessary may not be shared by his inheritors. OK, so they might not pull the rug from under Nicola Cortese but Marcus was his mentor and that vital link has gone. Nicola may now be very much on his own as far as financing the club is concerned which means he only spends what he earns.
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Either Saints are a wonder team with a crap manager or they have a brilliant manager but the team is crap. That's the only two explanations of today's abysmal performance. If you were booing who were you booing? For my money the team looked totally disinterested today like they couldn't give a toss whatever the result. If so looks like Pards has lost his authority which could be because the team sense he's only a couple more defeats away from being fired or walking. I'll wager that the next time we all troop up to SMS for a home league game he'll be history and we'll have some bloke called Angelino Spaghetti or some-such running the show.
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Article: Why Southampton won't win promotion
Charlie Wayman replied to buctootim's topic in The Saints
Daily Telegraph has us down as clear favourites to win the league at 9-4 today. Nobody else even close. Sheff W at 7-1. -
PS It is quite significant in my view that none of the BIG clubs have come in for AL in the way they did for Bridge, Walcott & Bale who were much younger than Adam when they were plucked away. With new concerns over the dearth of young English talent in the PL after the fiasco of Cape Town, surely at least one of the top six clubs will have considered whether he could do the job at the highest level? Although the jury may still be out it begins to look as 'though he hasn't quite got what it takes to be a top player by the judgement of Wenger, Ferguson and others who really know about world-class talented players. Let's face it Adam's had chances at U-21 level and not taken them. For my part he is certainly talented but also extremely unreliable, he has had good games when he shines like a star in the firmament but all too often has stinkers when he can disappear for large parts of games. He is however "one of ours" and that always gives me (and you - I hope) a very special buzz that you never quite get with imports from other cities. I loved Drew Surman for all his foibles and weaknesses and he loved us and it was a black day when he was sold to save our club and to no avail. Let's not lose Adam Lallana the same way otherwise we might begin to wonder why we trek up to SMS of a Saturday especially if your local serves better fries and cooler beer
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If he shared a house with some bird, it is easy to understand why he'd want to sell up if they've ended their relationship. No self-respecting new partner would want to move into some other bird's nest. Let's be realistic, in the present depressed housing market it'll take ages to move his huse on anyway whatever it costs, so he won't be going anywhere soon - if it's sold by January he'll be lucky. If he does have itchy feet one would have thought that the end of year transfer window is when he is most likely to look at his options. If Saints are leading L1 by then and going like a tram he'll stay and see us through to the Championship. If all goes well after that why would he want to leave if there is a realistic prospect of leading us into the premiership withing two years? Relax, stop worrying and look forward to the day when he is fully fit again and trots out once more at SMS. If I'm wrong, Saints will only have themselves and AP to blame.