Charlie Wayman

Let me add a ray of sunshine for a moment on this otherwise very bleak story. Marcus Liebherr's legacy for to NC and the club may have amounted to a few million or a few tens of million quid but a finite and limited amount of money so to drive on into te premier League, NC already realises we will need a minimum of £50-100m. The shortfall isn't going to come from gate receipts unless the stadium is enlarged... Perhaps, NC is in the market for more investors to come on board and be partners in the venture. If the total value of the assets plus the legacy under NC's control was (say) £50m maybe he could expand the sharebase to allow investments of up to £49m and still retain control so that the Club ends up with a fighting fund of around £100m... Hence the Sun rumour could have been true in part and NC's alleged comments to staff would not be untrue - that part of the club is for sale but not the whole club and he NC would still retain control? Not the man U or Chelsea style of single family ownership but the Arsenal style collective ownership of like minded people? Discuss.. my further contribution to get off the whingeing old codger step and give all you suicidal types a reason for not jumping!

I have a feeling that the "fit and proper person test" will be far more rigorously applied post the FIFA 2018 voting debacle. The FA and the FL will no doubt be feeling far more independent from now on to do things their way. Today's talk of Harry Redknapp taking over England seems to me to be a coded message saying foreigners may as well b*gger off, there are even rumours of Abromovich selling Chelsea as Russia summons home its entrepreneurs to deliver 2018. Of course, there might also be a mood abroad that the party in England is effectively over in which case many foreign owners might take flight at the first whiff of gunshot. Don't forget FIFA is a Swiss organisation and who is running Saints?

I am hoping we will be given first refusal on our own ST seats this time. Not having that choice is really quite insulting to spectators who have backed this club year in year out, thick and thin, fair weather and foul for decades on end. It is not nice to be told in effect that nobody gives a toss about all that.

Well, I did warn you months ago that all the signs were there for a fire sale in the spring and those warnig signs were lised. Maybe this old lad is not so paranoid after all? Forget those dreams my friends we are down in this sh*t*hole for ever

We do need to keep a sense of proportion about these things. SMS was built in 2001 over 60 years after the Nazi blitz of the town centre yet there has never been even a thought of erecting any kind of memorial in the St Mary's area to those lost in that shelter before to my knowledge. It is well to remember that other shelters were hit as well, notoriously the one outside Edwin Jones and of course the Above Bar area was totally destroyed yet there are no memorials worthy of the name anywhere to be seen and no great clamour to turn our City into a mausoleum and quite rightly so in my view. In the past people just wanted to forget the damage and depredations of two world wars in quick succession - in which sudden and unexpected death became a frequent visitor - and move on with Life. The poverty and misery of the population in their aftermath took years to ease and quite understandably few wished to be reminded of those all too recent ghastly events through memorials and the like. People may well have been in a state of permanent denial about the past and who could blame them? Now, we live in more affluent and strangely reflective times where new generations have developed a kind of sadly misplaced nostalgia for horrific events that are beyond their ken. Distance blurs memories and memorials are perhaps necessary reminders of the cruel lessons of history that must never be forgotten but they should never be more than that. If Mr Cortese wishes to honour people in this way then good for him but do not automatically jump to the conclusion that earlier custodians of the land in which the tragedy occurred were heartless brutes - emphatically they were not. Judge today's events and cations by today's standards by all means but do not fall into the trap of judging decisions made in earlier times by today's standards please. I was never a supporter of Mr Lowe but let's be fair he battled long and hard for a new stadium for SFC and eventually succeeded. Just trying to find a site, the money and the strength to battle through all the planning nightmares would probably have been enough distraction for most, having to then deal with issues like memorials well come on chaps... as I said please keep a sense of proportion especially as we don't have transcripts of any of the conversations of the time.

Perhaps we can have Higgenbottom, Delap and Fuller back now... ? ;-)

The only way to square the pitch and make it interesting for the rest of us is for premier league and championship sides to be restricted to British born players

They've got Brett Ormerod! Sh*t!

Very disappointing but at least it's at home again! There was a time 3/4 years ago when I wouldn't have got out of bed to watch a team called Blackpool now they're two leagues better than us so some might regard this is as a dream tie. Me? I can't be Rrsed to get out of bed to watch a bunch of Belicia beacons running about with a donkey in tow. Ah well, we were never going to win it anyway.

Well i don't agree with you and IMHO your views are grossly unfair. You don't get to play for France U21 without prodigious gifts. Maybe it would be more balanced had you suggested that crap kick-and-rush, up-and-under, long ball, head it anywhere, third division crap is far too basic for the sort of imaginative football he will have been schooled on. If Saints cannot utilise his obvious gifts as promotion pretenders then they are nowhere near ready enough to step up to the plate. Only Saints would cast aside one of its most valuable footballing assets; let's be honest he will go in January 'cos he must be effed off by now. As for fans against Schneiderlin, "there are none so blind that have no wish to see!"

My bet is that Oldham will win this league, they have been by far the best team to come to SMS this season. OK we won 2-0 but anybody who went will remember what a superb game it was. Thought then they'd match us step-by-step all the way and guess who's still one place below us. Probably we'll be second as otherwise Adders gets it - his P45 - and this is not a good time to become unemployed.

Slow day? Do we really want to be third best in this crappy league? Not a good way of getting promoted and hoping to stay up

You've got it about right, 6/10 but way below what was expected after last year's run-in. I am giving the benefit of any doubt to Adders that he will spring a surprise or two with imaginative signings in January - a creative midfielder and a creative striker in the Lallana mould. Failing that then we are not going up despite all the hyperbole coming from upon high. Automatic promotion must have been written into his JD as the reason his job existing. It is now clear that Pardew got the transfer kitty he wanted last year obviously underwritten by a guarantee that he would gain us promotion last year so we know how the Corteses end-game works - it's called give a bloke enough rope.... Thus, Adders will get his piece of silver but sure as hell, Cortese will want his pot of gold for it!

There, thought I'd clear that up for you and them... and PS Poyet and his cronies are a bunch of miserable whingeing gits for trying to get Schneiderlin sent off. If that's football South American & Chelsea style than EFF off to thenm all. I'm glad we are red-blooded Saints!

He is one effing useless apology for a second rate journeyman in my opinion, my heart sank when he came on last night and Barnard went off, then you just knew the game was up. here's a conundrum for Adders "How do you drop a gooley when you don't drop Guly?"

Whatever turns you on mate. Refs always get the blame for other people's troubles but Saints were pretty guilty most of the time things went against them last night; just because we couldn't score and never looked like scoring doesn't make the ref a wonker!

The last thing you should do on here my friends is to get sucked into nonsensica discourse about two of our players perpetrated by t.ssless w.nkers from somewhere East of Skatetown reknowned for only one thing, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Don't legitimise their commenst by debating their points, as Adders might say "get 'em to play our way!". Small town prats!

See, I may not be much good at forecasting scores but weather (?) now that's different.. Mind you its still friggin parkey out here in the sticks

It ain't about potential, it's about 'get real now' and Barney is way better than the Gooley droper by any measure of striker effectiveness.

Usual load of BBC forecasting ********. It'll be about the same as today +8C no worries. T-shirts should be OK.

You just know we are going to end up being disappointed, gnashing our teeth and spitting blood but bring it on! Can't wait to get at 'em.

Give Holmes a start, even if he gets injured we can bring on Chamberlain but the other way round we loose them both, Guly droopes a gooley yesterday alright whereas Lambo played his part as a holding whatever so keep Lambo in with Barney at least for starters. Davies could face a very busy evening so too hot a kitchen for a young Pole

Gus Poyet linked to Chelsea.. understudy / next up in place of Ancelotti? Great news, will unsettle them more than a bit i hope

What do I know!

Wish it was so easy. We'll lose them both of course, 0-2 today and 2-3 on Tuesday. If I'm right it'll prove only that a lot of people on here are still living in cloud cuckoo land. If I'm wrong, what do I know!