Charlie Wayman

Must be some sort of weird logic in your head but the bloke sounds to me more like an accident waiting to happen.

You mean he's Japanese, can't speak Portugeuse and has no grudge with Pards?

A better question is "when did you last leave a saints game feeling like a million dollars?" Right! I can't remember such a game either, win, lose or draw somehow Saints always manage to somehow fall shor of expectations.. if it finishes 1-0 "it should have been 4 or 5!", if it finishes 1-1 "it should have been 4-1!", if it finishes 4-0 "it should have been a hatful!" Know what I mean and the poor effing cat gets it in the Guly's whatever.

What this thread reveals is how little confidence most have in Cortese, Adkins, the coaching staff and the players. But why? Despite all the negativity on here last year we were top two all year and went up... We have played very well indeed thus far this year and outplayed the top two teams for quite a bit of the respective matches and with better finishing the result might have been quite different. There is certainly no lack of confidence in our team so what's to worry about? We are most definitely not Derby or Sunderland or Wolves of a few years ago. We have not had an ideal start but we'll be a better team for it and will be massively good enough to better Norwich, QPR, WHU and Villa. For sure we are not going to get anything from the Emirates and the worriers will have another field day but half the table are only a point or two in front of us so a couple of good results will make everything seem different. If you don't start believing your feelings will transfer to the team so man up guys, we'll get through this. Remember when Spurs were bottom a couple of years ago and now they're in Europe

I remember being a very lone and often derided voice when Morgan Schneiderlin showed up here and I likened him to Pires and predicted he would turn out to be one of our truly all time great signings (still with the caveat.. if we can keep him) and a nailed on certainty for international honours. "Nah" you all said.. "****" y'all said... This lad is 17, already he looks like a young Carrick. I don't think he really has the silky skills of Morgan but he has extremely good reading of a game, is comfortable on the ball and picks out some great passes - in some ways a typically good quality attacking English midfielder who should make the England team in a few years. Not yet quite an automatic first team pick but bloody close but we must hope he is not phased by the arrival of Ramirez

So who would be dropped if in the unlikely arrival here of del Piero? Schneiderlin, Lallana and Ramirez are auto picks whilst Steven Davis is looking more likely for an auto spot as well. Maybe he could play CM as a stop-gap? You tell me, otherwise it ain't logical to hype up such a move for the guy to park his Rrse on the bench every week just in case Morgan gets crippled or red carded. Punch is clearly going to miss out anyway so one more ahead of him will probably see him away on loan in January which would be a pity on yesterday's showing. Guly also looks to be all washed up at this club, his misdemeanors no doubt being seen as bringing the club into disrepute and thereby infuriating a chairman who expects exemplary standards of everyone. if you doubt this, do we not already have the classiest match-day programme in the PL?

If you say so Bailey... Yawn. The rest of us thought the season started two weeks ago and we've already lost three in a row... Did you not realise that these count on the jolly old scoreboard as well?

Stop rationalising things so that you can say later that you really loved 'Old 'Arry' all the time and try to make the idea more palatable. He's a loser and a financial disaster in waiting! Cortese will bring in an Italian manager, probably Martinez or de Matteo should he push Adders out the door but bearing in mind we have just signed a host of new talent that has not yet even pulled on a shirt all this talk about managerial change is c.rap. It's what goes on off the field and away from the dressing room that will cause the biggest scandals but as always the Star probably has an agenda to destabilise where no disharmony exists and what is really sad is why so many on here fall for it every single Ffing time?

Only in your mind, doubt anybody else would have made a connection. strange boy!

This argument is so flawed and full of nonsense that it's hardly worth a reply but you're getting it anyway.

Will we win the PL this year or come second as we do normally? Or will be be in receivership by January Too close to call

It isn't as simple as that, they have contracts and bills to pay and kids at school and need to find clubs willing to take them on and pay them their going rates as well as the transfer fees. In most cases age will be against them as everyone these days wants "promising young kids" not OLD journeymen. You can't just sack them without compensation and we don't want all those expenses loaded on the P/L Account in one year so there you have it.. Exactly the problem Liverpool are having

Blimey, there's more people on here this morning than will attend the ManUre match on Sunday, what are they expecting? Rooney? Bale? Ronaldo? Surely guys you've learned by now that nothing more is going to happen, the deal's that we have any hope of doing have been done. Get back to your day jobs and relax!

If ManUre had signed him he would be hailed as a genius. This time those bustards didn't beat us to it, it's good to know that Cortese has respect enough around foreign football circles to entice these kids in with little more than a promise of great things to come. I'm less sure that Rooney would be the right signing for us but Ashley Young might be useful out wide.

We need to get real about this. The only reason the bloke even considered coming here in the first place was the promise of wads of dosh. His interest in our club is Zero as witnessed by the fact that he couldn't give a toss about whether he comes here or not, hence the laissez faire attitude of all concerned on the their side. Like Buttner he's just waiting for a much better offer from a club he's heard of to come on on deadline day so we will be gazumped yet again. Why don't we just tell them to Fff Off and stop humiliating ourselves. We must be becoming a laughing stock. Whilst others buy we do next to Fff All and just make ourselves look like desperate tits.

Another one in Smallford near Nottcutts.

Who were we playing tonight? Um... Stevenage, let's not get carried away chaps

He's the one for us then when Adders quits?

He may be open to some criticism but who isn't and who else have we got who is anywhere near his class on the ball? You need to keep a wider perspective. Nothing that happened yesterday was remotely his fault and indeed the close marking that suffocated his second half play was a tribute to him for Martinez who quite rightly worked out that if he close marked Morgan out of the game Saints were finished.

He was and it worried the **** out of me because this is only the second game; not only did he appear to have no answer to Martinez after HT but he seemed to be mesmerised by Wigan's level of skill and control - knowing they were twice as good as us at it - when it was time to use THINK about subs and formation changes. I have never seen him so indecisive before surely he cannot be out of his depth tactically? I hope not as we must rely on his insight more than ever now as the majority of players who are going to serve us this season were out there on the pitch not doing terribly well.

Exactly that. No Schneiderlin - no hope! You knew the second half would be different to the first for the visitors, once they worked out our system of play. The disappointment was that we were well beaten at our own game by a team that we must now fervently hope are actually very good this year, rather than the poor also-ran's of last. The big difference was their speed of thinking ability, efficiency of using the ball space; di Santos's goal was a sheer delight to behold although had Adam's first half effort gone in that too would qualify as a "beaut". Where too now? Two more defeats and we are anchored and probably losing touch. Not perhaps time to panic as we knew the start would be tough but certainly some changes needed and probably not the time to rush the kids in. Let's just hope that Cortese was putting the finishing touches to the transfer of two stars from Serie A so that they are on-board the Sunseeker by Friday, indeed let's all pray it be so! Fonte was awful; if Adkins cannot improve the guy's reading of the game and delivery to the mid-field then he will quickly become a liability. K Davies too needs to sharpen up on the same issue, it seems by the time he's made up his mind what to do with the ball once he's got it, most people have nipped out for a pee thinking i must be half-time.

So it's off the bus and onto the boat. "Missing the boat" and "all aboard" have more resonance than "missing the bus" - so come on Nige out with the old and in with the new. No more of the when "I came into the building" nonsense ... "When i pulled alogside the jetty"... all together now "Jolly boating weather!" So why only two rows of seats, is that all they could afford?

Of course you are right. Formations were changed in every match last year especially when "we could not get hold of the football" and the diamond formation was refularly introduced to regain control. I didn't see Adders on the dog-and bone to the man upstairs to get his next set of instructions. I'm sure he feels as no doubt everyone in football realises these days that flexibilty and adaptability are the keys to winning games especially when all teams are more or less equal in talent. Adding in the 4-3-3 tactic isn't something you can do by just putting shirts in different positions at half-time, the guys need practice and more practice to perfect the technique. Is it asking too much of young kids to school them in about three or four different formations instead of one or two and expecting them to think and play differently at a stroke when perhaps they are already losing and down in the mouth? Maybe, but we'll see. Some will cope some may not and it is not unlikely that individual intelligence will have more than a little to do with that. One thing Cortese most definitely is not is mad. No way is he likely to tell Adders how to run his army in the battlefield on a match-to-match and minute-to-minute basis, not even Montgomery was that stupid. He just wants to ensure that Adders has all the necessary tools at his disposal for complete flexibility and mastery of his art. If it proves he can't use those tools wisely then he'll be out the door or window or emergency exit and deservedly so. Nor is there any evidence of the so-called "distancing" and why would there be, if Adders really feels it is already time to put "distance" between himself and Cortese then he might as well bugger off now. My own fancy is that Saints will do quite well this season and hover mid-table most of the year and none of Mr Blackmore's concerns will be remembered after September.

No question, Rick Lambert will start on Saturday even if he is not fully fit and will last only 65 mins. At home, attack has got to be the mantra and RL's ability to hold up and bring people in is unmatched, that and the shed-full of goals that he knocks in for fun. ManC was a special case and Adders just about got it right, defend early on when they will be lively out of the traps and rely on our superior fitness to wear them down in the second. Ok so we didn't knick a point and a loss is a loss which ever way up you shake it but at least we didn't get thrashed and trashed.

Can you believe the idiot chose MaUre over Saints? What a tosser! We're already above them in the league so when we thump the Barstewards 4-0 next week Buttners come uppance will be complete. The Northam might even come up with a song along the lines "We thought about buying you but we've got Fox"