Charlie Wayman

At last, somebody who doesn't view everything with rose tinted specs. I fear you are right and Saints will be relegated simply because we throw so many points away from winning positions. Other teams around us are less eye-catching but seem to know better how to win even with less skilful players.

About time! We're on a Swiss roll.

I agree with most of this. This was a poor, poor performance and probably the worst since the Sunderland fiasco. No sign today of the fast passing and moving football that Adders had pretty much perfected and that had bamboozled ManUre & ManC. Very odd team selection and taking off Luke Shaw was a monumental mistake and will have ****ed off the lad for sure - as well as me. Leaving out Puncheon was congenital madness. We seemed today to have stepped backwards, looking fragmented, hapless and uncertain at times. I hope this is not a sign of a wind-down from the Adkins era with nothing to replace it? One game of course but with a 12 pointer next up this is not the time for us to come unstuck and start a period of decline.

It seems to happen more often now and one wonders whether the clubs have got together and decided to force wages down to fall in line with FFP. By not offering contracts to players who clearly want to stay the clubs are saying , "OK, we'd like to sign you too but not at the price you're asking. We'll tell you what we think your worth and what we'll pay" Lampard is in the same boat as Puncheon and it'll be good for football if the clubs gamble and win. Jason can be good but he's not world-class by any means and we can easily find somebody younger and more skilful in the summer if he runs away.

It looks like our new south coast rivals will be Bournemouth, they're playing really well and could win back-to-back promotions... now, we didn't expect that did we. On the other hand we could meet in the nPC although that's looking less likely by the day.

He said six, are you deaf?

Don't talk rubbish, the MotD review was quite fair and Alan Shearer really meant what he said about is being brilliant, you could tell he was proud at that moment to have been a Saint once.

One of the most enjoyable games we've seen at SMS and quite possibly the best Saints performance in their history taking into account the status of the opposition. A privilege to be there and a privilege to see such skill and commitment from the players. Well done everyone at SMS. What a rabbit, what a hat!

Until there is a waiting list for STs the club cannot raise prices too much as their first objective is to sell out with just ST sales. Set prices too high too soon and that objective will not be realised. What will fill the ground is a genuine top four team that neutrals as well as local want to see. Clearly we're not anywhere near that yet. Once that happens and all STs are sold before a ball is kicked pricing will depend exactly on how many people are on a waiting list. That insures the club against losing a few though high pricing by having enough demand to cover any shortfall. The spanner in the works for the club is that until demand for STs is 100% with a significant waiting list there will be no point in building a larger stadium as that would also work against higher pricing but satisfying any latent demand and resulting in less than 100% sales. My hunch is we're OK for another two or three years at the very least with above inflation increases - prices advancing by between 5% and 7% depending on reaction from fans and whether STs sales start going into decline

So not one person has scored it with us going down. This alone makes the whole thing a mockery. Impartial scoring by 30 people or more would statistically result in us going down in at least one table yet not a sign of it here. I'm afraid the old adage still applies - rubbish in / garbage out

You moron why open your gob if you have nothing useful to say

Neutral with a moniker like Saint Scott? Do us a favour!

What do you need rules for, you've either been to a ground or you have not? It's geographic for heaven's sake

Morgan most successful tackles to win the ball back in the PL this season, say no more... worth £15m now?

He's probably on gardening leave until next season having no doubt been paid off handsomely. Villa will be vacant soon enough.

It's a nightmare trying to get to the ground on time because of road congestion and to find parking space when we have +25k in the ground even worse getting home when everyone leaves at the same time. It would be impossible for this city and especially the St Mary's area to take many more people. The idea of expanding SMS to the size suggested by the OP is so ridiculous in terms of what is possible and what would be allowable by town planners and the police that the only amazing revelation on here is that anybody has given it credence enough to discuss it seriously. Just suppose for one minute that we freely did want a 60K seater stadium then common sense tells us that it could only be on a site near the Motorways with enough wide open space around to create the car parks needed and tell me this who on earth would ever sanction such a use of greenfield land for such a venture. Have we already forgotten the Stoneham nightmare saga. Come on chaps, wake up and smell the coffee!

Regrettably you are right, the standards in this league are improving on a monthly basis and our failures in transfer policy last summer and in January will come back to haunt us. It's true we play far more attractive and flowing football than any other club in the bottom half of the table probably including Swansea and yes lots of people are saying nice things about our style but we are not getting points and we are not winning matches and that spells disaster. Does it remind you of another team who play really attractive flowing footballing but who end up winning nothing? Maybe what's good for the eye doesn't suit this league who knows but looking at the fixtures left and taking account of our history this season it's gong to be difficult to get more than 3 more wins and 5 more draws which will leave us close but not close enough to survival.

No but they know how to grab their chances when it matters and it has served them well in past seasons. We need just one bully boy character like John Terry who will put his body on the line in those last five minutes to force a goal b y sheer physical presence when nobody else seems able to.

This is precisely why we are going down and Wigan are not. 13 games left and at least 16 points needed and we haven't averaged that rate all season and yes we have played everyone at least once. With Villa and Reading winning, it really isn't impossible for us to end up on the bottom at the end just as we did last time. We are leaking like a sieve and nobody seems to know how to fix the leak. We are all gutted here.

Agreed Jack Cork is vital as is Morgan Schneiderlin and Luke Shaw but they do not score goals so unless Rickie gets some help from somewhere that's going to be our big problem. Jason is a bit on and off, on a good day he can pull pink rabbits from hats, most times he produces ooh-aah's. We need goals but we seemed to have become shot-shy of late and if Pocket Rocket doesn't fix that soon.... you know the rest.

Reading, Saints & Villa will drop unfortunately. Wigan are too good and too canny to go down and somehow my gut instinct is that Harry will scrape enough draws to get him by. The rest seem comfortable now. Saints still need 17 points and must get some wins as there are only 14 matches left - at least 4 probably 5 and let's be frank they are not there in the fixture list

No I am not, we were pressing further up at the start of the season - which clearly you've forgotten already - with the result that we were constantly getting caught on the break with our midfielders too far forward and we leaked goals like a sieve and believe you me if ManUre hadn't lost interest in the game when they were 2-1 up last night they'd have had at least 4 by the break and slaughtered us after the break when we had to chuck everything forward to try and get back in it. Unless you hadn't noticed, Arsenal chuck everyone forward every game at the expense of defending, sometimes it works out most times they let in a hatful as well. Unfortunately we don't have their talent to recover from 5-1 down to win 6-5 so NA had to work out the vital compromises to be made between all-out attacking and keeping the ball out of our net. MP hasn't woken up to this yet but we must hope that he does soon otherwise on another night we'd be back where we started. The game is in front of you so study it with a bit more insight.

The proposition of the OP is absurd, MP has not been here long enough to have made any significant impact on the way we play except to perhaps fiddle with some details. We are doing nothing that we didn't do under NA and in my view we are still on the roll that started after the Sunderland game at SMS. Players maybe are putting in 90% instead of 85% just to impress the new guy but that would be about it in terms of discernible impact and change. Most on here surely have followed football fork long enough to have worked out that change in football happens slowly. The slick fast passing style that we now seem so good at has taken nearly 4 seasons to perfect. The time to rush to judgement will be at season's end not after two games when most players will not have had much contact with him or his coaches.

At the end of the day we got beaten. No points, end of story. We squander more chances than any other team in the league and if we don't start scoring soon we'll be on the way down. Best team ever relegated? probably.

He's left the building, took his bus and been arrested for possession of a football.