Charlie Wayman

For sure, I think this is a Top Top thread and the responses truly awesome

Truth is 'stonewall' doesn't mean anything except that if you live on the moors and you want to stop sheep wandering.

Anybody who watched Barcelona last night will see exactly the roots of our current style of play including the multiple square passes followed by a quick ball over the top to a runner behind their back four. We have Djuricic, Barcelona had Messi, That apart no difference and they beat City, good omen?

Hang on a minute, we have only 12 games left and if we write off 3 of them that means for sure we need 27 points from the other 9. That just isn't possible is it? Certainly seems unlikely on current form. Most people on here can't handle reality and abuse will surely follow this but 4 seems improbable at best now, we have slipped up when we least needed to; the 8 points that we have let slip away in our last four relatively unchallenging matches has (I contend) sealed our fate for us this season.

but this is surely?

Here we go again, it was all the ref's fault. People need to face reality, if we need to rely on set pieces for goals to win games then we are in big trouble. This is looking like more than a blip and the blame game is kicking off. Maybe we aren't yet just good enough for top six, no shame in that if we finish as high as last year after the mauling we had last summer.

Who is that gormless ***** that kept asking questions that Koeman clearly was never going to answer?

That really might be very good news indeed do you not think? Where's Victor in training? Enjoy the game chaps, this one is being very actively boycotted by me. By the way when I miss a game we usually lose or draw 0-0.

He was of course already at a top club and only made the bench. Nobody on here it seems has mentioned the Koeman factor in Toby's resurrection as a player, that should not be under-estimated nor the player's own sense of loyalty and belonging dismissed out of hand. Hi might actually like it here and want to stay awhile.

Not unusual in business, it means nobody ends up with egg on their faces if the fit doesn't quite work out as intended, the parties can go their separate ways and move on without undue speculation surrounding any departures. Seen it many times. You'd be surprised how often these things don't work. His new TV appearance should be taken as a very strong signal that all is very well rounded and settled upstairs, the drinks cabinet door is open and the senior management toilet unlocked. Ralph will be here to help unload the wheelbarrow loads of dosh soon to be delivered by Securicor. In Ralph we Trust! Ralph won't move on!

I am far more concerned about the continuing absence of Morgan & Toby from training than the prospects of Jay Rodrigues who is nowhere near ready for training by the sound of it. Noises off no doubt come from his agent to remind anybody who listens that the player is still around. Even if he was back in training at the end of March he probably wouldn't make the bench until the middles/end of April when there would be only about 5 or 6 games left. If at that time we are still in with a shout for top four would Koeman really give him any game time at the expense of regulars who had earned us this position in the first place. To do so he'd have to be pretty damned impressive in training thus assuming he would be up to speed and match fit quickly. It's all asking a lot of the lad really. More realistically he might get a few minutes here and there to build his stamina, awareness and confidence and make sure there were then no remaining niggles from his serious injury. After a summer rest the ground would be prepared ready for pre-season fighting for his place for 2015/16. I cannot see another club wanting to go faster with him than Saints, certainly not the top six boys, nobody buys a pig in a poke! Things have moved on everywhere since Jay was sidelined and as Ralph Kruegar said, there are loads of good young players out there who would die to play for Saints and indeed for any of the other top seven or eight clubs of the PL. That's what Jay is really up against, younger, stronger, faster, possibly more gifted kids lining up to join the gravy train.

No Morgan or Toby in training although Shane Long is there. Bit worrying that the former two are not recovering as quickly as was expected. Anybody have an insight on their condition?

Let's hope we have another Gareth Bale on our hands. Our future certainly looks bright, England's future looks Red & White.

under his leadership of course, let's not forget how important that is.

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So now Mugabe has a long contract... what is about centre backs that suddenly we are signing up all our young hopefuls when we already have 4 of the best in the PL on our books? Is there maybe a Les Reed plan to sell on all our current stars in a year or two for massive money and field a squad of Englishmen?

This idea is too ridiculous to be taken seriously. Childish meanderings.

1-1 provided that we score first and early.

No need for a thread on this, just check the public records at Companies House. Does it matter? Saints is a private company so it's up to the owners to decide how best to squander their money.

Well, I won't be there on principle. You can't blame just the players, we were robbed blind by the scouse bastards from the top of their club to the bottom. Definitely one to boycott.

Superb player, far better than his critics would believe. Reminds me of the days when many posters on here were giving stick to a very young Morgan Schneiderlin even when his talent was obvious. Not only is Maya Yoshida a top class player but a superlative natural leader as well and loyal to the Saints cause.

Twice in one season, unbelievable. Just sign that 10-year contract Ron! Send for the Sculptor.

If Toby signs a deal and with Fonte, Yoshida and Gardos all in good form and still relatively young, where's the space for Turnbull in the next 3/4 years even if we fancy holding on to him? Is it just because he's English and home grown whilst none of the others are and Les has lined him up for the England team?

If they awarded points on the basis of goals scored we wouldn't have to put-up with this anti-football bus parking of the type that WHU and other struggling sides adopt which is ruining the game. Any team would have found it difficult to score against them last night which is quite different to WHU being any good at football. It was very noticeable that when we were passing the ball backwards, forwards and across to try to draw them out of position they just ignored us with all ten of their players sat in formation in their 18 yard box without making any attempt to move towards the ball let alone all get into our half. How many times did Forster actually touch the ball? If this is the natural development of PL football with poorer clubs adopting well rehearsed spoiling tactics to prevent the big money spending star-laden teams at the top playing football as the only way of staying in the league then the PL seems doomed to a very bleak future sooner rather than later. Bloody hell even the Championship is more entertaining than this. If you think about it... once two opponents have mastered the simple art of Nought & Crosses it is impossible for either to win a game. Isn't that exactly what is happening now in the PL? Why do we brag constantly about "clean sheets" rather than goals scored? I'll leave that for you to think about.

Without Morgan we are second rate, imagine what will happen if he does leave in the summer. The worry now is that we are on a slide at precisely the wrong part of the season and the coaches seem unable to arrest it. The lack of quality up-front is becoming embarrassing and it seems unlikely that many of the on-loan wonder boys will make the grade. Still that is probably the big advantage of trying before you're buying. We may have to accept that this is our level with the players we can afford and 6th or 7th is the best we can hope for now. Let's hope Liverpool have an off day when they travel to the South Coast in a couple of weeks time. Certainly our darkest hour this season.