Charlie Wayman

He wasn't that good, Hughes was constantly in his ear down by the technical area for slowness in possession, passing backwards or not getting the ball forward quickly enough. He was subbed anyway because of the formation change after HT when we gave up on three at the back and went to 4-4-2. To be fair to Hughes, he called that right as we had had zero attacking threat in the first half; as it happened bringing on Romeu to shore up the middle of the park was a master-stroke, from then on we matched Chelsea in the midfield even if sloppiness cost us a couple of goals later. Sadly now, we have a combination of a manager who is not very good and a bunch of players who are obviously reasonably good footballers but of limited ability who are not good enough on the ball, in possession, in quickness of thought or in decision making. The gulf in class is simply down to these factors but you have to spend a great deal of money to find the exceptional players at the top of the tree who have these attributes field honed. We saw a few of them in blue shirts yesterday. This is not about fitness, application or energy or being at the top of their game it is about players who possess these attributes instinctively and are able too apply them without apparent effort. We just don't have players like that.

Steve Bruce has just moved into pole position with his new qualifications, out of work and cheap!

Obviously you've not been paying attention. He is rapidly becoming our best player this season bearing in mind his slow start because he arrived back from the World Cup ages after everyone else. Remember too that screamer he scored at the end of last season. I was delighted when he stepped forward last night to clinch our win. Too many on here dis the bloke for reasons that escape me and no doubt many others. He is a class act and could play in a much better team than our current load of brainless cast offs and will find many high profile suitors when his contract ends.

Exactly. No progress at all and none of the non-regulars impressed enough to move into the reckoning for Saturday.

... and there it is, F me!

All that is your problem not ours, your life story is of no interest to any of us. Plenty of social media on which to feel sorry for yourself and find a shoulder to cry on.

You're becoming very good at these put downs, good to have somebody on here who has their feet well and truly painted and can cut through all the bull**** and pomposity. No amount of hyperbole will turn JWP into a PL level footballer, he's had chance after chance after chance and always has come up short. No future here unless Brylcream becomes a sponsor.

Benji, what a wonderful set of ripostes. Made my day!

Redmond also had a go at Lemina for a poor pass, bit like pots & kettles. How do you know this stuff anyway? Hope it's true and there are real rifts in the hierarchy. Best way to sort things out. A few "FO's" and "You can FO too" upstairs can't come soon enough!

Actually he is not very good, looks very pedestrian which is why the Scousers let him leave.

Another fool in paradise, a Fool's Paradise!

This is just a load of crap, what game are you watching. Cedric is just about our best player today in a very poor bunch.

Seems to be a comedy of errors everywhere on the pitch, our passing is appalling. Why isn't Bertie getting forward for the return pass from Redmond and why has Cedric been told not to run to the bye line as he used to do. Elyonoussi has been **** poor and Austin is a lumbering oaf about 5 yards off the pace.

Bugger me, the idiot has left Yoshida yet again. Bugger me, the idiot has left Romeu yet again.

Let's not get carried away by agent talk who see the plight we are in. There is no money to buy players unless we sell a few first. I agree with you on that list of PTSBD players but will anybody want them and will there be enough time negotiate and conclude good deals for them before we start shopping. Then their is the inescapable fact that we have not been very good at bringing in even half decent players in January in recent seasons. As an aside will Hughes' opinions matter one jot or tittle by January?

That is exactly the point, at this moment in time with the players we have and a journeymen manager we are very lucky to have kept him. If he plays badly from time to time it is hardly surprising with the woeful lack of quality around him. It must be depressing for a European Nations Cup winner to swallow the bitter pill of lining up alongside Stevens, Vestergaard & Hoedt and having to cover their arses because of the inevitable clangers that they drop in every match. He is better than this team so does not have the platform anymore to exploit his talent as an attacking wing-back. He'll go for sure when his contract runs out.

In your opinion maybe but not in mine but then again you do tend to be biased against the lad for some reason.

It has every bearing on this season's league games and simply because there are NO reserves anymore, all players are squad players and are a starting option. I doubt we'll get tanked but losing 1-0 is worth a good bet.

You don't need reasons to be disappointed. You are watching diabolical crap every week and the anticipated and inevitable slide of our club into oblivion.

Blackmore especially, he never watches matches, just makes useless asides all the time and it takes all of DM's time to get commentaries back on subject. Just a sycophantic puppet who values his job more than the truth.

The last thing we want to do now Adam is take Old Nick seriously

Steve Bruce is the man for us, he's wasting his time at Villa.

...and without Gabbiadini now it seems so if we do start with two up front it's Long & Austin, think of how much anguish that is going to cause on Merseyside. My bet is also that we'll go 3 at the back with Yoshi at last getting the nod. Something like this? McCarthy Yoshida Vestergaard Hoedt Cedric Romeu Bertrand Hojberg Lemina Long Austin

That's the reason why a tonking is long overdue and right now we are playing far more poorly than under Puel or Pellegrini, both of whom knew how to defend. If Hughes doesn't start Romeu this weekend to plug up the glaringly obvious gap in our midfield in front of the central defenders then a tonking will come surely. In fact it might be a very good thing for us to get hammered 8-0 to finally stop all the bull**** from Hughes about how good we are and how unlucky we've been in recent matches. As for the Yoshi situation, I'm thinking of starting a petition to the House of Commons for an urgent debate.

Hughes will still be here even if we go down, which is increasingly becoming more a probability than a possibility. Nobody upstairs has the bottle to admit three humungous cock-ups of appointments in a row. Top jobs would go immediately because one of their principal tasks is to recruit the right people in key positions. Also, we have no money (apparently) to pay him off. We will be stuck with him in the Championship until his contract expires. I've already stopped listening to his glib and predictable press previews and disingenuous post match comments. If he knows we are crap then say we are crap... oh, I forgot it's his job to make sure we are not crap.