Charlie Wayman

None of the three was effective today, in fact they all played poorly by their normal standards. That combined with the need to rest them for Swansea was probably the reasons why they were hooked early. Eckert probably thought the subs couldn't do any worse. Sadly the malaise had spread right through the camp.

Absolutely woeful performance from Saints bereft of ideas, synergy or passion against a Sunday league team playing a type of footballt hat has no right to be in the Championship and surely will not be come May. What was particularly disappointing was the complete lack of understanding between players, too often people caught ball watching on the back foot rather than anticipating the next pass or movement. Not a single player can hold their heads high tonight and say they did enough. On this showing Saints are a million miles away from being a team fit for promotion. The mniute Wood came on for Matsuki one could sense we had thrown in the towel and the inevitability of a home goal that sure enough arrived shortly after. Sitting back on a one goal lead is soccer suicide especially against a team who's sole tactic was long balls into the box. Oh my have we screwed up big time letting THB, Charles & Stuart leave without ensuring proper replacements. I thought and hoped we'd seen the back of Calamity Jack when his left footed repalcement arrived but bugger me he's back in the team alongside his replacement! You couldn't make it up. Eckert needs to do some serious soul searching before Tuesday night or his side will be in for a hammering.

I'm sure he will be included in their Carabao Cup squad so not all bad news.

The problem with JWP is whether or not he can fully integrate into the team culture that has been built up since last year and accepting that he is no longer the captain of the Saints team. At the moment he seems to me to be an individual in his own world from the brief appearances he has made in games and the odd clip we see from Staplewood. Understandably anxious to make an impact quickly he needs to settle into being a team player as well. It can't be easy for him coming back to a club that is the same in name only to the one he left three years ago (tea ladies and kitsmen aside!) and operating at a lower level to the one to which he has been accustomed. He may have to swallow some pride although that is likely to have taken a knock anyway with all the shinnanigans that went on with him at West Ham. There is also likely to be some minor friction of personalities and roles to deal with, for example JWP will no doubt see himself as the free kick specialist but Manning has become used to that role as well. I am on record many times as not being JWP's greatest fan but now he's back with us I do want him to succeed for his sake and ours and hope that he will prove to be an astute buy despite his ageing years. As an aside, one could postulate that if Ryan Manning's selection is based largely on his free kick skills and notbhis defending, having JWP in the side might actually mean that Wellington becomes first choice at LB. As for Aaron Ramsdale, the message from Eckert seems loud and clear, Aaron is a Southampton player. OK, Long may be picked as back-up goalkeeper for match days but be in no doubt that if Peretz screws up too many times or gets injured it will be Ramsdale that keeps goal on the starting team sheet and not Long if he is still here.

Come on lads, you've got to have a laugh. I mean you couldn't make this stuff up.

Burnley & Swansea will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season, so too WHU. Bet on the autos being two of those three. Places in the top eight are being swallowed up rapidly.

Halo washing? I've spent a lifetime at meetings about meetings. Of course I am cynical.

You can always put each other on your Ignore list then the rest of us wouldn't have to suffer your public slanging match every day.

He's on loan for a year, gets lots of game time and then returns to Forest ready to challege for a first team slot. Isn't that what loans are for especially with kids.

Schlotterbeck is left footed and is not a replacement for right footed THB. THB's replacement will pop in tomorrow.

These are only heads up from reporters. I would have thought it to be standard practice in contracts these days to include a sell-on clause, certainly for younger players. It would be very naive to leave it out.

Bugger!

We all want the prettiest girl at the dance.

Where's your evidence for making these sorts of accusations. I've never read anything negative about his performances and recall we were all thrilled to bits when he was signed.

Utter Tosh. How does it help us to include THB in the team and then he leaves after 4 matches. Then we have to start from scratch again with a different combination at CB.

Nothing to do with it. As emphasised by Eckert, Schlotterbeck is a left footer so plays on the left where Stephens has been standing in for quite a while. Wood is a right footer so plays on the right. Not rocket science.

It was a Hampshire lad from Winchester that did for them in the end but he couldn't cook.

Way past it; time to hang up his boots. Maybe we could do a loan deal with West Ham, we give them four pintsof scrumpy and a box of Walkers .

If our aim is to build a side that can stay in and compete in the PL should we win promotion, then the last thing we need is to waste our very limited resources on bringing back a 32 yo Ward Prowse for largely sentimental reasons. He has no future value to the club, will be over the hill soon if not already and lacks the athleticism that will be essential in midfield to compete at the higher level and even at thios level. It's all very well pointing to his considerable experience in the PL and free kick record but more recently he has failed to cut the mustard at WHU, Notts F or Burnley. Why do people on here expect anything to be different if he re-joined Saints? It won't. We don't need a geriatric passenger who happens to take free kicks well, we have one of those already. Worse still he will be blocking the progress of youngsters like Akachukwu and our youngsters is where our future must lie. Signing JWP will be a munumental folly that we must not commit or will come to regret.

Have you been spying on them?

We still scored more goals than most other teams in the league last season

We should go in for KWP not Prowse.

Edozie is bloody good at falling over in the penalty area. He got an assist on Sunday. Worth starting him even if this trick works only a half dozen times per season.

I wouldn't rule out some background shit stirring from his Father-in-law either. Surprised ManUre haven't made a bid.

Time for a Potter's Heron moment!