Charlie Wayman

Isn't there another old saying about chickens, something along the lines of not counting them too soon?

They'll all be saying that! The odds of those matches ending in draws and us winning as a combination must be millions to one. Shouldn't hold your breath.

Agree. It is worth noting that Lincoln are sitting one place above us in the league table now. Unbelievable on the evidence of the team that played us but in broader respects they are no slouches so a draw doesn't look so tragic after all

If Eckert must sit it out for a few weeks don't you think Adam Lallana is the more likely stand -in? He and Garner should be able to keep things together. Probably an exaggeration, little old yokely Southampton barely get a mention in the press even when defeating the current league leaders not once but twice. Do you really believe that? Best to wait and see what they say before becoming apoplectic.

If Welington or Manning has a good right foot there's your answer.

I've been right-royally castigated for criticising Bree this season but yet again he was our poorest player. He is not playing at the level he achieved last season and his desperation is showing, giving away a penalty last time out by hauling a player to the ground and resorting to shirt tugging on more than one occasion yesterday. What's going on there?

Schlotterbeck

What a pity THB didn't stay. He and Schlotterbeck would have made an awesome pairing. THB's limitations were probably caused by Stephens's inadequacies and the need for THB to keep one eye on him and not be able to fully concentrate on his own job.

Johnny no mates?

Any streams other than Fawa?

We were reminded by the commentator that WHU were relegated with 39 points. Most seasons that would have kept them in the PL. They have been able to hang on to their quality players so barring a string of serious injuries it's hard to see who will be able to stop them. We had our own early warning of their potential in the Carabao Cup. Some are suggesting that Wrexham were poor tonight so the scoreline flattered WHU, the reality is that the home side outclassed them in every area of the pitch and demoralised the visitors. With nearly 60k fans cheering on the Hammers it's no surprise that they threw in the towel after the third goal went in. WHU top the league tonight, if they are still there after the weekend it may be the case that they run away with it. Finn Azaz claimed that we are the best team in the league, those words might come back to haunt him.

Luckily Swansea were not a bunch of cloggers unlike Lincoln so all should be well.

My comment was in response to the poster who suggested that we had already overcome the defecit of 4 points inflicted on us by the EFL. I suppose it depends on which way you look at it. Do we have the right to withdraw him half way through the break or do we need Flynn to kick him in the ankle (gently) before he sets off?

The point I was making earlier in the thread, we started off 4 points behind everyone now we are 6 behind WBA, 4 behind WHU, Swansea, QPR and Charlton etc. We have lost ground to the league leaders and made up none on the others mentioned.

Anything less than a victory will be unacceptable. There is already a 6 point gap to the league leaders.