Matthew Le God

Flynn Downes was retrospectively red carded vs Swansea. The 3 match ban did not benefit Swansea. Resolution with the wronged party was not a factor in that, nor is it in Spygate.

Or we just spend £5m less than would without the fine on transfers

I didn't say it was precedent. I was answering his question regarding has anyone been kicked out of a competition for off field offences.

If I bite your ear off that is more significant than pulling some hair out with my hands. The former deserves a bigger punishment. Same with sporting advantage, cheating a big sporting advantage warrants a bigger punishment than a small sporting advantage. Expulsion is a big nuclear style punishment if the sporting advantage was minimal.

Swindon in 1990

Because you were asked for clarification as what you said doesn't appear to be true.

I lost count of the ifs, buts and maybes in that article. A purely speculative fluff piece with little to no substance!

Or a knife! "That’s not evidence, this is evidence"

Why would that happen? If we get a points deduction, it won't be a massive one. Even if it was -6 for example, that wouldn't stop an automatic promotion chase, let alone a playoff one when 8th gets you into the playoffs next season. If anything, we'd actually lose more players after a promotion as we'd need better players to have any chance of staying up!

Where? Not on the club's website or X account. The local paper did, but the paper isn't the club.

Exactly!

You don't become as rich as Dragan Solak is if you don't fight for your cause.

That isn't precedent as it is a different governing body. Plus it would be contested as unfair (two wrongs don't make a right) as Saints would have approached the 2nd leg differently if they already knew they were 3-0 down. Plus playing ineligible players is not a precedent for Southampton/Middlesbrough situation, it is a different offence.

Not if the independent commission doesn't consider starting a 'media war' a good thing; if anything, it isn't acting in good faith! The sensible approach is to stay quiet in public and let the process sort itself out behind the scenes.

But if that is what happened it wouldn't be club wide conspiracy, so punishment would have to be proportional to it.

We had a 27 year spell in the top flight between 1978 and 2005. It would be very strange if we did similar again and got a points deduction in 2053 for something that happened in 2026!

What do you have against their players that warrants such a ridiculous wish?

When you say "they", do you mean one person?

Like a Monty Python sketch... Things would be very different if Will Salt watched this video before his trip...

Eyewitness testimonial isn't reliable minutes after an event. Let alone recalling things from weeks or months earlier and remembering faces. As this video shows... Would you recognise someone you saw 2 months ago who was stood outside your workplace?

Witness statements - They didn't report them at the time. ID lineups aren't overly reliable within hours of an incident, let alone weeks or months later! Phone records/bank statements- How would other clubs have those regarding Saints staff? If you mean the EFL, this isn't a police investigation, there is no obligation for those to be produced.

CB Fry did Plus what other evidence would there be apart from CCTV?

Whatever? You said I did, but I didn't. Cherry picking what?

How long do you think CCTV footage is kept for?

I didn't mention Southampton Common.