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What line of argument? Does anyone think Ukraine would be in the same situation now if they hadn’t given up their nukes in exchange for paper guarantees from Russia, US and UK?

That's a really bad sound mix. Normally when you get an aging star whose voice isnt what it was they are carried by good backing singers. She's got four but you can hardly hear them.

I'm not expecting anybody apart from a gangster to take over. But it will likely be a rational one interested in money and power, which is fine. Just like Putin used to be before he got bored with money, houses, boats and hunting. Then he started killing people to get his jollies, more blatant and brazen every time when no-one stopped him.

It's going to be his demise. He has royally fucked Russia. It's not the fact of the war it's the utter cack handed management of it - alienating the softer more Russia friendly European allies by targetting shopping malls and apartment blocks and pissing around with gas supplies just enough to irritate people but not have a strategic effect.

Daily Mail: Labour's 'grubby backroom pact' with the Liberal Democrats could lead to a 'coalition of chaos' with Sir Keir Starmer as Prime Minister, Tories warn Totally different to the fantastic squeaky clean coalition of charisma that Cameron's Conservatives had with the Liberal Democrats ofc.

Not really. There clearly are additional costs, delays and paperwork associated with being outside the single market. That was why Thatcher the great free marketeer was so keen on creating it. It might be possible to argue the additional costs are worth it because of the sunny uplands and future honey, but no one seriously argues the costs aren’t there

Did you not understand the article? It was clearly about Brexit reducing Britain's competiveness, reduction in rexports and British people losing income. It didnt mention the price of imported fruit and veg.

Perhaps not killed. Maybe horribly disfigured so that no-one would vote for him. Maybe like a frog or something. Yep looking like a frog would definitely stop him getting elected.

Nah. It's all a lefty conspiracy about cake

Do you actually have a point and know what it is? What is it you are claiming? that nobody wanted to leave before 1993 or that Britain's membership of Europe pre 1993 and post 1993 have nothing to do with each other? Or some other desperate carp?

Whitey simply said we've had over 40 years of leavers moaning. He was correct. You said something you thought was smart but was dumb - which is the habit of thick people - and got pulled up on it. Then you doubled down and tried to make a desperate distinction about 1993 that wasnt part of his point - and ended up looking even more stupid. You want to stop now or or take another IQ hit?

1973-2020......thickie.

Not a whole lot of love there...

Meh. Russia has been trying to buy Nicaraguan support for years, ever since Cuba ceased to be tame. Two randoms from a the national assembly isnt much to show for that 'investment'

There is a good selection of 'no compromise' cars here: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/electric-cars/100234/best-plug-in-hybrids Don't know what you're in the market for but I like the look of the Skoda Octavia.

If you get a plug in hybrid (PHEV) you get the best of both.

Words, Johnson's moral compass, cost of a pound when you hold foreign currency.

The current Government have disturbingly similar tactics to Putin, albeit 10 years behind. The insistence that everything is going swimmingly to plan, constant counter narratives , attacks on those parts of media who don’t parrot their views, the lying, the breaking of agreements and promises and the refusal to be held to account. I would never have believed it could happen here but Johnson has gradually dismantled many of the norms that protected us.

Deters the swooping

Has this been posted before? It should be a sticky on this thread.

They've turned into a parody of themselves. It's almost become anti propaganda - so comicly extreme it just makes the regime look deranged

Seems a bit excessive for a transit

Obviously the Mail has always been Tory central but its taken on a more nasty, cultish, propaganda tone since the new editor Ted Verity took over. I used to read it a bit because its one of the relatively few free access online news sites. I've stopped since it took another lurch towards trash.

Ooh 211 to 148. He got to go Having 40% of your own MPs against you in untenable