Johnny Bognor

It sure does, but they don't pretend to be on the moral highground like your a-typical socialist. Even you BTF, must admit that the last people you would expect to take the **** are Labour and Lib Dem MP's? Source (Labour Party Website) In 1995 we set out our values in Clause IV of the Labour Party’s constitution: ‘The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few.’ Yeah, right!

I agree it is damage limitation, but still better than doing nothing at all. I shouldn't be surprised as that is Brown's trademark. The number of MPs and amounts involved with Labour are far greater. Margaret Moran MP (Labour) is the MP for Luton. Her second home was in Southampton (which is further away from London than Luton is) and then she claims £22,000 for dry rot. How the hell do you explain that one? This is far worse than any of the Tory grandees and is one of the least mentioned of abuses. As I said, there is nothing worse than a socialist caught with their snout in the trough. Go Labour! Socialism Pays!

I agree for a number of reasons. Growing up with Alan B'stard you kind of expect the capitalists to have their snouts in the trough (not saying it is right, just that is what you expect). Whereas the morally bankrupt socialists doing it seems worse as they are supposed to be for the people (yeah, right!). They are all at it to some extent, but at least Cameron is being seen to do something about it, whilst Clown is turning a blind eye and being left flat footed again.

No, that was me. Marsdinho beat me to it this year.

Mine's also the 15th May. I started a "Rupert Lowe Ruined My Birthday" Thread this time last year. It would be nice to be taken over this friday as it would give me something extra to celebrate.

Wow, if he can magic a day up out of thin air then this guy is the real deal.

No doubt you work in the public sector, because in the private sector you get fired if you are caught taking the ****

There's more tonight in the Telegraph and this has some distance to run...... Just stumbled across this..... http://timesnews.typepad.com/news/2009/05/top-ten-expenses-claims.html It makes you bloody sick

You probably have to provide receipts and if you are caught fiddling your expenses, you will probably lose your job. These guys are all taking the **** - milking the taxpayer for what they are worth. It wouldn't be so bad if they were doing a decent job......... Clown and his comrades are finished....this will be quite apparent in the June elections. My worry is that instead of dealing with the worst economic crisis since the second world war, the socialist party will be fighting each other for position (in the hope of hanging on to their well expensed jobs), meanwhile the country goes to the dogs.

....to people who can pay it back

Um, by digging up old posts, you've just GM'd NC! (On GM's thread):smt041:smt041 Love it.:D:D

But what happens if other clubs hold out on buying them? Will the creditors continue to pay their inflated wages as a non-operating football club won't be able to? What then happens when they don't get paid (are their contracts then null and void and thus worthless)? The contracts, not the players, are assets and surely they become worthless if those contracts are not honoured.

I suppose it is down to what the creditors believe is the break up value. Who is up for buying a 32k seater stadium in Soton? What is the realistic value of players when they have no club to play for? (a fully operating club can command more, whereas a liquidator can only take what they can get which will be significantly less than market value - ie the cost of their existing contracts). I would guess that the value of liquidation stock would be pretty low and hence any offers lower than this are probably not worth having anyway?

Indeed, this is major.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=2L7QBA0_yTw

Care to expand? It doesn't matter now as they have both gone.

If you believe in taxing the well off to help the poor....then read this. The general election of 1841 was won by the Conservatives with Sir Robert Peel as Prime Minister. Although he had opposed income tax, an empty Exchequer and a growing deficit gave rise to the surprise return of the tax in his 1842 Budget. Peel sought only to tax those with incomes above £150, and he reduced customs duties on 750 articles out of a total number taxed of 1,200. The less wealthy benefited, and trade revived as a consequence. Source: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/history/taxhis2.htm So the concept of taxing the rich to benefit the poor was in fact invented by the Conservatives, some 60 years before the Labour party was even born. Socialists generally forget about this very important fact, so if you believe in the principle (as I do), then you are very much a traditional Conservative. As to the current shower of ****e, they have been wasting (sorry, that's spending to you or you would probably call it investing) billions of taxpayers money and borrowed monies. They had the perfect opportunity to save for a rainy day, but they didn't. This means that Government debt will be 400% more than it was in 1997 by the year 2012. Nice one G Brown! Go Labour! Socialism Rocks!

Well since 99% of socialists voted for this shower of ****e, Labour are the political representatives of the socialists. Had they not have backed Labour, we might not have been in the mess we are now. So I blame the socialists. Go Labour! Socialism Rocks!

Here's an alternative, why not save for a rainy day in the good times, so you don't have to borrow when the **** hits the fan

We're on the march with Mark Fry's army, We're all going to wemb-er-leeee, and we'll really shake em up, When we win the J-P-Teeeee Cos Southampton are the greatest Div 3 Team!

To the tune of OWTSGMI..... The Football League, is ****ing bent! The Football League, is ****ing bent! It's full of cheats and cheating bastards! The Football League, is ****ing bent!

That's about the best possible outcome. On the bright side (if there is one), there is nothing to hold back the 31 interested buyers now that our status is known.

None of us are better off. With hundreds of billions of pounds in borrowing, we are pushed thousands of ££££s into debt which we will have to collectively pay back for the next decade. ....and this is based on the over optimistic forecast that we will come out of recession early next year. If we dont (and the IMF amoungst others don't think we will) the the numbers will be far worse. So it is not so much tax and waste like previous budgets (instead of save for a rainy day), but more a case of tax and borrow, screw everybody (by hoodwinking them with forecasts that are out of step with everybody else) in a desperate attempt to win some votes at the next election. Go Labour! Socialism Rocks!

I wondered when this would branch out into a pun infested thread. I was going to say something earlier but thought someone might take offence.

Seamus and Murphy fancied a pint or two but didn't have a lot of money between them, they could only raise the staggering sum of one Euro. Murphy said 'Hang on, I have an idea.' He went next door to the butcher's shop and came out with one large sausage. Seamus said 'Are you crazy? Now we don't have any money left at all!' Murphy replied, 'Don't worry - just follow me.' He went into the pub where he immediately ordered two pints of Guinness and two glasses of Jamieson Whisky. Seamus said 'Now you've lost it. Do you know how much trouble we will be in? We haven't got any money!!' Murphy replied, with a smile. 'Don't worry, I have a plan. Cheers!' They downed their drinks. Murphy said, 'OK, I'll stick the sausage through my zipper and you go on your knees and put it in your mouth.' The barman noticed them, went berserk, and threw them out. They continued this, pub after pub, getting more and more drunk, all for free. At the tenth pub Seamus said 'Murphy - I don't think I can do any more of this. I'm drunk and me knees are killing me!' Murphy said, 'How do you think I feel? I can't even remember which pub I lost the sausage in.'

We only need all of the games this weekend to go our way (ie Saints win everybody else lose), followed by beating Forest (irrespective of the other results in the final day).