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If we (Ralph) hadn’t royally stuffed up Bournemouth and Everton at home then supporter emotions would be in a very different place.

That was always the uber control freaks' plan, his vay or the autobahn!

Can’t believe he’s suddenly deemed to be no good having raised no negative attention previously. I did hear he had issues with manager, so maybe he has gone the same way as everyone else who wouldn’t get on the bus?

Think the "plan" was to get some quick easy cash.

I’m a bit lost with the hierarchy at Saints, who actually makes the big decisions?

That’s the same lie I tell myself, but in reality, denial is the first stage of grief. It hurts quite a lot.

It would have to be an old dog of war, like Sam. If someone could just put the best players in their correct positions and get everyone putting in the same shift as Danny Ings we would have to improve wouldn’t we? I would rather see an u23 putting in a shift than JWP avoiding play for 90 minutes.

The kindest thing you can say fit Ralph is massively out of his depth in the pl. I think he has lost it completely

No, but it would hurt his pride and is generally a terrible look. Not that I advocate not attending as I think it will make things worse.

Was thinking the same, strangely things are much worse now than they were then, and we don't seem to be motivated to do anything.

Only bit I disagree with is "flirting with the relegation zone", we started flirting 3 years ago, she, the relegation zone, wants more, she has had enough of our empty promises, and is now 8 months pregnant and has told the wife.

It probably would make them better, either way it has more chance of improving things than getting on their backs, that has never worked. They end up paralysed be fear.

And subsequently regressed.

In a nutshell, that's all we can do, anything else will have a negative effect, fingers crossed the rest of the debacle sorts itself out.

Sort of agree, because getting behind one “thing” is divisive, which is along the lines of what I was trying to say above. But.... I do not seeing myself getting behind Gao under any foreseeable circumstance, and unfortunately he is a major part of our club.

The rich mans JWP?

Ive no faith in any of them, I don’t understand the notion you must pick someone to support? I support the club, as hard as it is, because I have done for a lifetime and my father did before me. Hopefully it will still be here for generations to come, when these charlatans have found another body to prey on, if they don’t destroy it first. I feel Ralph is a terrible manager, however I can’t be sure, it’s hard to see the wood for the trees at our club. In any other scenario we would be screaming for his head. What if he is actually the one destroying team morale, how is throwing your support behind him going to help?

Che Adams, 4th worst??!! Did the other 3 just score own goals?

I think we have had it, I've never thought that is the past, even when it looked completely hopeless as I always thought we had enough to pull ourselves out. We always had team spirit and the collective Saints spirit, that has all evaporated. I can't see a redeeming feature in our current set up. I said it after the Chelsea game, I feel it more so now.

Seconded.

This is where my having no friends or acquaintances policy comes into its own.

Picking up on your feeble minded point, I have long been thinking that this black box / profiling / only signing nice boys who won’t rock the boat policy has led us in some way to the characterless mob we have now.

No, it needs to be talked about, there are many problems with this club and Ralph is definitely one of them.

I have not formed an opinion of his ability, but it can't be easy being thrust into the prem , played out of position, then not feature at all. Poor lad must be destroyed.

Im happy to, with Eric Black, Ralph K and Les gone we need another scapegoat. Id never heard of her until this thread, but it all fits now. Patel out!