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Others are missing the point that the away form has garnered just 2 points from an available 12 against relatively modest opposition and that the home results have been a little flattering. Some might also look at the way Saints players were on their knees physically in the last 20 minutes yesterday and then wonder whether the squad is good enough once injuries and suspensions start to take a toll. Big game coming up next. Another "must win"?

But we have the deduction and we're sat in mid-table with the coach under a cloud of uncertainty. That's the reality.

Well yes - but we didn't. We lost to a team of cloggers who really only wanted a point at home. Again.

Can't believe the complacency at taking a massive 2 points from 12 available away from home.

It really isn't too early. Look at them. They're gasping for breathe. Unfit, too slow.

This team's not going up.

Saints players look absolutely knackered.

Saints screw it up again. 2-1 to them.

Probably Larin's worst game for Saints. Should have been replaced 20 minutes ago.

Wrexham look the more likely now.

Sloppy stuff, Saints.

Matsuki needs a rest. As does Larin.

Saints continue to spurn good chances.

Free kick in JWP/Manning territory.

Just a couple of reminders there that Saints have in them to throw this game.