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Which would be a similar situation to the one in which the Coservative government sold off many of the countries assets in privatisation to the 'small shareholder' in the belief that the average person could be able to own shares, only for the majority of these small shareholders to then sell to major investors and turn a quick profit. And from theer the major shareholders also want to see a return on thier investment, resulting in for example maintenance cuts on railway systems, and fatal injuries. One thing is for sure, the government has never gone on a 'socialist' spending spree, as they are not exactly socialist. For an example of how this country could and should be run, we should be following the democratic republican model of European countries such as Norway.

Some do make sense, but cannot think why anyone would need to be reminded that a camel does drink with a spoon, or in fact what this obvious statement actually implies?

Even that one puts the camel down a bit, something to do with the difficulty of pushing a camel through the eye of a needle, in reference to bad people getting into heaven

From another thread in the Lounge where the proverbial 'straw that broke the camel's back' was quoted, got me wondering about proverbs in general, and though that may seem a starnge thing to think about in itself, I have not much better to amuse myself with on 2nd last day of work this trip. Turns out camels have quite a few associated to them.... Death is a black camel that lies down at every door. Sooner or later you must ride the camel. Death is a black camel which kneels at every man's gate. Death rides a fast camel. Seems that the camel is getting a rough deal proverbially, anyone know any positive camel stories???

She had a fixation on Florence Nightingale or Mother Theresa?

The Archbishop of Canterbury has urged people in his Easter sermon to lead a less materialistic lifestyle, and says people were 'fascinated' by recent tv programmes(ie reality tv) in which members of the public lived alongside monks for a few weeks. Well I think he should set an example to the rest of us and live in a monastery himself instead of his current home of Lambeth Palace. And then The Pope has his say, saying that we should try and rediscover hope, to end wars poverty and financial turmoil, bit strange coming from the leader of a church who have inflicted many wars throughout the ages in the name of religion, never mind the wealth that they have accumulated in doing so, selling a few paintings may help the poverty issue for a lot of people. I am not against any religion as such, but I do think faith is a very private individual matter and should be left at that.

What exactly is going to be done with the money collected, who is in charge of it and for example if someone does come in and buy the club and wipes out the overdraft etc, what happens to it then. I would not give a penny in the circumstances where a club has been financially ran into the ground by paying too high a wage bill in relation to the incoming revenue,Saints may well go under completely, but they will not be the last in the current climate where exhorbitant salaries are made to distinctly average players. Also instead of bucket collections, people may have thought about the financial effects of boycotts etc through the entire season, in effect they would have been doing what is suggested now had they turned up at St Mary's.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ac%2Fdc+heavy+metal&btnG=Google+Search&aq=o&oq= Oh Dear......................

In my youth I was very much into heavy metal and saw them play Glasgow Apollo in the 80's they were brilliant live and still will be today I think I would pay 100 odd quid to see them again, I did look into tickets when the dates were announce but will be stuck here in sunny Africa at work:(

He never said she should not 'be allowed' to be famous, what I presume he was meaning was more a reflection on todays society as a whole, where young people are brought up in areas where drugs are commonplace and people are poorly educated, which in itself is not their fault. As for being exploited by the media, I do not agree with that part, she played the media to her advantage from the point of view of transforming herself to a 'racist outcast' in the eyes of the media, into some sort of media star, unfortunately only because she was dying of cancer. The people who are responsible mainly for making the non entity that she was into someone famous, are the 'great' British public.

Get on a train to the West coast.

So as well as the new crime of 'Being In London' we can add 'Having hands in pockets and walking in a different direction'???????? Yes the police had a difficult job to control a crowd of protesters made up ofboth peaceful protests and those hell bent on just having a ruck, but that is why the police are or at leat are supposed to I would have thought,have specialist training for these type of events. In any case, the most important fact is not the push, which in itself is not proven to have caused the condition, it is more the misleading of the media again that is the important issue at stake.

The guy's heart attack may not have been brought about in all honesty by the push, but it does show clearly that the police are acting in a manner not fit for their job, if you were to do what the copper did to someone for no particular reason, you would expect to get lifted.

It's only football, played by a host of over paid, over rated footballers.

I may back Villegas each way, seen him play a few times and think he can do it if he keeps it together for four rounds, or at least sneak a place, and agree Rose is also a good option at that price.

Well what price would you be willing to lay Woods at if you were a bookie?

From today's papers, personally think it is a good idea. The regulated legalisation of drugs would have major benefits for taxpayers, victims of crime, local communities and the criminal justice system, according to the first comprehensive comparison between the cost-effectiveness of legalisation and prohibition. The authors of the report, which is due to be published today, suggest that a legalised, regulated market could save the country around £14bn. For many years the government has been under pressure to conduct an objective cost-benefit analysis of the current drugs policy, but has failed to do so despite calls from MPs. Now the drugs reform charity, Transform, has commissioned its own report, examining all aspects of prohibition from the costs of policing and investigating drugs users and dealers to processing them through the courts and their eventual incarceration. As well as such savings is the likely taxation revenue in a regulated market. However, there are also the potential costs of increased drug treatment, education and public information campaigns about the risks and dangers of drugs, similar to those for tobacco and alcohol, and the costs of running a regulated system. The report looked at four potential scenarios, ranging from no increase in drugs use to a 100% rise as they become more readily available. "The conclusion is that regulating the drugs market is a dramatically more cost-effective policy than prohibition and that moving from prohibition to regulated drugs markets in England and Wales would provide a net saving to taxpayers, victims of crime, communities, the criminal justice system and drug users of somewhere within the range of, for the four scenarios, £13.9bn, £10.8bn, £7.7bn, £4.6bn." Titled a Comparison of the Cost-effectiveness of the Prohibition and Regulation of Drugs, the report uses government figures on the costs of crime to assess the potential benefits and disadvantages of change. The document, co-written by Steve Rolles, head of research at Transform, uses home office and No 10 strategy unit reports to form its conclusions. It finds: "The government specifically claims the benefits of any move away from prohibition towards legal regulation would be outweighed by the costs. No such cost-benefit analysis, or even a proper impact assessment of existing enforcement policy and legislation has ever been carried out here or anywhere else in the world." Taxing drugs would also provide big revenue gains, says the survey. An Independent Drug Monitoring Unit estimate, quoted in the report, suggests up to £1.3bn could be generated by a £1 per gram tax on cannabis resin and £2 per gram on skunk. The report follows calls for legalisation or a full debate on reform. Last month, the Economist concluded: "Prohibition has failed; legalisation is the least bad solution."

Could someone post the odds for this, stupid work tinternet filter will not let me access any site witht the odds, I can go on sporting life, but not to get the actual prices:mad:. Usually not a bad event to bet on, as there is so many players can be completely discounted.

Garcia is the 'new Colin Montgomerie', he is either very very unlucky or one of the biggest chokers in the game.

Talking of Windsor, I am off there soon for the May day bank holiday weekend, family funday, so taking the fiance and children as well for 2 nights, any recommendations for things to do in Windsor, including 2 children?

No I am me and have no idea who Markkib is or was.

And now you are reaping what you sowed, also by going into admin straight away, Lowe would have been hounded out of town by the baying mob. So there.

Best was backing Garrison Savannah in the Gold Cup, which paid for my offshore survival course, resulting in me being here in sunny Africa, worst was a couple of hundred quid ante post bet on Saratogan the year Nashwan won the 2000 Guineas, went down to watch the race at Newmarket, felt like I was the only person on the whole course who had not backed the winner, hence have never liked Newmarket since, always bloody freezing there anyway, plus a crap view and on occasion, a load of violence especially outside the football season.

Would it not have been better to confess at the start of the season that we were crap at football and at running the club, go into voluntary admin, and have more time to get the bucket collections going, we would probably have about 25-30 million pounds in said buckets by now?

Seeing as how forum members are coming to the rescue of Saints and chipping in amounts amounting to a total of either a few hundred thousand or a few million pounds depending on which main bored poster you believe, are we going to get representation on the board? Some suggestions; Alpine Saint Public Relations Executive Stanley Community Relations Executive StuRomseySaint Crowd control/Police liaison Executive. Please add some other positions, we will soon have the biggest boardroom in League 1.