Ludwig

Excellent news. I might actually pay £5 now. I know a lot of people have been really pee'd off having spent their money only to have little or no service other than what you'd expect from a free website. I'll give you a few goes at writing something interesting and if all goes well then i shall stump up my fiver and congratulate Steve on breathing new life into the site..........but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Look forward to reading your stuff, St Armstrong.

Is Nigel's sacking an opportunity for us to move forward? The whole reason he was sacked was Cortese and we all know how flawed his judgements were in certain situations. He had something against Nigel. But now, as we see our side struggling for form and looking more and more likely to free fall down to mid table obscurity, maybe it is time for Nigel to make his return? Thoughts?

Mods - I think we have a commentary cliché bot on this site? Might want to check the IP.

we wont need to imagine it, you'll be leading it.

Apparently every club has its ignorant, ill-informed cretins too.

I think we should listen to Saint in Paradise on this subject of HATE. He is after all, the resident expert.

You're right. Now you've pointed it out, i have changed my mind. We should torture at will as long as we don't behead anyone. I hadn't previously considered any of the points you made, thank you for helping me open my eyes. And with that i am out of posts. Good job i saw the light just in time.

No. "These people" included innocent people. They weren't at the frontline, they were, as the map in the article shows, shipped around the world to various places where they could be tortured in private and with little comeback. I see no circumstance where torture is acceptable. If you have an innocent person they could say anything to stop the torture, what use is that? Its counter productive. This news of torture is not going to make those radicalised fundamentalists change their minds, is it? It will simply feed more and more disillusioned people towards terrorist groups and radical acts. It upsets me to think that people are happy to hand over such control to authorities that they will stand by and be either apathetic when a human being is tortured or even go along with it, encourage it, like Delldays has.

"At least 26 of 119 known detainees in custody during the life of the programme were wrongfully held, and many held for months longer than they should have been" Not bothered about innocent people being tortured? Blimey, what a horrific world we live in. Ask them nicely or torture them - the answers will be equally useless if they're innocent and don't know anything. I'm staggered that people think torture is acceptable. I'm sure its widespread. I'm sure the Britain has tortured people. However, none of that makes it ok.

I think we should make sure we pass on out thanks to the one person without whom we couldn't have accomplished this amazing achievement. Thanks Brendan.

Yes - he plays for Southampton, who are currently a top 4 team. They have been for a while now.

Just checking: is everyone on here aware that Manchester City are the Champions of England?

Forster is sh*t.

What about this 90s classic with it's refrain of "And the Saints are playing at home todaaaaay!"

He's up there with Nigel Quashie in the Saints all-time hotties list.

Silly boy.

For all of 2 minutes.

How do you know people weren't offended? I am offended when Chinese people are called chinks. I am quite offended by the stereotyping of groups of people, be it jewish people or the way Art talks about Malaysian people as if they're all the same. People should be challenged when they make ignorant comments like this. And just because something worse is happenng somewhere else, doesn't mean we should ignore the lesser event.

Exactly right. Good to see you agree with the original post. As you rightly point out , there was an inference, which as you know is on the part of the receiver. As opposed to implication, which would have been on the part of Thornberry.

Bastard. He said I was the only one he is sh*gging.

That is your opinion. I am not happy accepting your judgement until it has been to appeal and held up. And to be honest, even then i won't accept it as you are the biggest còck on this forum (and that's saying something). Oh, it was a rushed post? Sorry, its just that you said it was the iPhones fault earlier. Im sticking to my explanation of illiteracy as the real reason and the excuse of the idiot is always that it doesn't really matter and is trivial.

I would sue Apple if using their equipment turns you into an illiterate idiot. Print off a copy of this thread, you could use it as evidence.

The biggest crime here is your spelling.

Villa: W 0-1 City: D 1-1 Arsenal: L 1-0 Utd: D 1-1

I hate it when the media or people dont give us the credit we deserve. Some just look for negatives in everything.