Chin Strain

Agreed, and he would have had more class to have just walked away after the game....but his knobishness pales into insignificance compared to Liverpools and Suarez'

Dalglish has been a monumental embarrassment over this whole affair. The way he's defended and defended Suarez to the hilt, even raising that 'he shouldn't have been banned' AGAIN after his comeback last week, and the cringeworthy t'shirts. The Liverpool board should have pulled him in right at the start of this affair, and told him to STFU. You get the impression that he's completely untouchable at Anfield. Is it any great surprise that they've had two high profile racist incidents in the crowd so far this year. That alone should have made the penny drop with all at Liverpool. Suarez should have been on a 3 line whip to close this down today. Effectively, he has just booked his ticket out of the Premier League. Being cynical, maybe that was the plan.

They should have been protesting against the child maimer, and the FAPPT, when they had 250,000 on Southsea Common...oh, they weren't fussed then, were they.

The bloke on the football league show has just said (in front of Dean Saunders) 'I'm sure nobody in football wants to see Pompey deducted points that they've already won'.... I half expected Dean Saunders to tell him that he can't wait, and that they'd been cheating with players they couldn't afford. Honestly, FFS, do they have to remove these peoples brains before you stick them in front of the tv cameras? Edit: Dean Saunders just said 'I love playing football, I'd have played for nothing'. A quicker presenter would have said 'I've got just the club for you then...'

I heard this from a player who was at the club at the time too. The coaching staff were all completely disinterested - he thought it was shocking We shouldn't have been relegated with the team we had. He may have bought the odd good player in, but he also was responsible for Davenport and Bernard. Two of the worst signings I've ever seen. He had one important position to fill - a strong no nonsense centre half to fill Michael Svensson's boots. He brought in Davenport.

In the last CVA, AA knocked down HMRCs claim from £37m to £24m for the purpose of the CVA vote. £24m was a little over 18% of the CVA. Football creditors would have been paid, and creditors now should just be the £1.5m (1 months wages). I'm not sure if AA can use the value of their contracts, or just what's currently owed (the latter I think)....not that AA seems to be particularly interested in saving the clubs bacon this time around.

I'm not sure. I reckon everything hinges on whether they get the Parachute Payment advanced. If not, they can't fund administration. If they do, the CVA won't be able to be serviced, which opens a whole new can of worms... If the PP is advanced they'll end up needing to find more money later to fund the CVA, making it much harder to sell the club. If the PPs aren't advanced, will they even be allowed to go into admin?

I wonder if the few are up to date with their police bills....oh, wait, they cant be if the accounts are frozen. Oh well, behind closed doors is coming....Pack the Park'? Maybe not. http://www.northants.police.uk/default.aspx?id=9205&datewant=yes&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

I didn't miss it - penultimate line!

The tricky part from Pompeys perspective though is that the wages you're paying the likes of Kitson, Halford, Lawrence, Norris etc are far in excess of what any other club will pay them. So: Pompey: New club want to buy you Liam for £1m Liam: Thank feck for that, what are they paying? Pompey £15k a week Liam: No ta, I'm on £21k plus bonuses and image rights for another 2.5 years Pompey: Look, do one will you, we're going under Liam: OK, but you need to make up the difference of £6k a week plus bonuses for 2.5 years Pompey: Oh, FFS...OK...we make that c. £750k. Liam: OK..I also haven't asked for a transfer Pompey: Oh...'kin hell...10% you say? That's another £100k Liam: Cheers, that'll be £850k Pompey: Do you take a cheque? Liam: Er, no. Cash please. Used notes. Pompey walk with £150k less agents fees, a slice for 'Arry (he's probably still collecting). That'll bring it down to nothing then. So, Pompey get £0 from a £1m deal.

And a lot of clubs restricted the numbers we could take (Brentford, D&R etc)

Me neither!

He's had 20 months longer than he should have had after the mess that was WC2010

Just on SSN

Kingsworthy Foundary nr Winchester have lots of log burners. They don't fit, but have a company that they suggest. As most have said, it's the lining that costs a fortune. We've left our open fireplace as it has a Victorian surround so it beats out the heat. The only downside is that it can be a bit messier than a woodburner....and you need to watch out for the sparks! On a similar vein...does anyone know of any decent log suppliers around Chandlers Ford area? Cheers

Yep, all of this and then some

So, let me get this straight, you come up with total guesswork, based on nothing but rumours (from a Skate site no doubt) and pass it off as a vain attempt to back up your weak argument. You come up with a guess about Sharp, and lob it in there as a smoke screen - it has no substance. You have no idea whether we're living within our means or not. Absolutely no clue whatsoever. In any case, WTF has that got to do with your club? The point is that we are infinitely more attractive to anybody looking to buy a football club. We have assets for a start - training ground, big stadium, big fanbase, land, players that we can sell (novel, isn't it). You have a run down poxy little stadium, a massive wage bill, a poor squad with little resale value and small gates. Stick in all the debt, and a string of dodgy owners and you end up in a situation where nobody in their right mid (for honest reasons) would want to buy you. You get 3 posts a day - try sticking to responding to posters who are asking sensible questions about Pompey, that you conveniently ignore as they're obviously in the 'too difficult' pile, rather than coming up with total tripe like this. Unless of course you have a contact at St Marys who you see socially every week or so (and I'm not talking about hookers)?

I reckon: MM will be guilty HR will be not guilty HR takes over from Capello. Everyone's happy....no, really.

I agree. They seem to think that there are two plans; Plan A - someone with a few hundred million to burn buys them, saves them and keeps them going as they are Plan B - start again elsewhere in non league, and leave Chinny to sort the ground out. Why wouldn't there be a Plan C? Buy the club out of admin for peanuts, 'persuade' the high earners to kindly feck off for free or small transfer fees in order to keep the club going, fill the team with low paid players / younger players / free transfers and try and retain league status in L1 at another local ground. Would H&W be a reasonable size for a L1 team? Having been to D&R last season, it can't be any smaller than that.

SSN...'and the latest from Portsmouth where the players and staff are left waiting for their January wages' I think they meant 'and the latest from Portsmouth where the players and staff are left waiting for their January wages, and the tax payer is left waiting for their November, December and January PAYE and NI'

So the ground has a covenant on it, does it. That's all well and good, and of course the council are making lots of noises about it staying as a football ground - it's a vote winner...it's not rocket science. This may well be the case if there is a football club, but it's naive to believe that will be the case if there is no football club. The council may well still turn down a planning application, but any appeal will be out of their hands and go to the planning inspectorate and even up to central government. Result? Council get votes still for 'standing up to evil Chinny', Chinny gets his planning approval granted, and Tescos buy the land. Without a football club, there's no reason to turn down a 'change of useage' planning request.

It's not 'secure' as in the normal sense of the word (i.e.secured against assets). The FCR just means that you have to pay all your football debts in full, or you can't play in the football league. You're right re why HMRC are challenging, but the FCR is an internal rule that you need to comply with in order to play in the FLs little club.

Players and football creditors are 'secured' if Pompey want to continue in the FL. If there is no Pompey, they stand in line with every other unsecured creditor. On the plus side, they get a free transfer elsewhere with a big signing in fee (and you'll probably find that they'll also get a pay out from some sort of PFA insurance scheme)

I agree that BC and SG won't be fussed about Pompey. It's going to be very messy from herein. Lasttime when BC took them out of admin, it was probably worth a punt on small squad, high quality - if they got back in the PL, ker-ching.This time, it's all about squeezing whatever he can get from the festering corpse....PL is a million miles away. Having said that, he flogged the club to CSI so PPs weren't his long term plan last summer. Now, maybe that is the new plan, as I suspect he knows he won't be able to sell the club for £17m this time. If so, it's a shift change from him. I also suspect that he thought he'd get a pile of cash from the WRC rights, but the FIA played a blinder and pulled the rug from under him. One thing for sure, he won't be throwing good money after bad. Any money he puts in now won't have any security, so he'd better be certain about the PPs, and how that will play out. It's going to be fun watching!

It still doesn't quite add up to me though. The value's still not in the squad to sell them, so the wage bill will remain high. Additionally, he'd have to keep putting off the CVA payment in order to fleece the club. I can't see that going down too well with the creditors...unless AA completely rips up the CVA and says that there will be no payments. That would cause some ructions knowing there are PPs....the FL need to keep a very close eye on this. Plan B is a bit of a pointless exercise in your scenario - the phew would be better off sitting out the next 2 years and taking the pain...at least they'd have a club at the end of it, in whatever league it'd be in...assuming BC sold / let them have the club.