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Well then why not make it a rule that teams cant scout at all in person. Being able to scout 73 hours ahead of a game creates an artificial window, just for EFL clubs. The info we are accused of getting - who is training - is available in that arsenal video.

It does rub it in though when you can view yesterday's arsenal training session on YouTube. Yes it's not EFL but it obviously doesn't provide much of a sporting advantage if the current premier League champions are happy to show their final training session ahead of the biggest game of their season to the entire world. The fact that we could do it one week, against man city, and not the next against Boro, is also a bit annoying. The idea that it is cheating is a bit much I think, it's breaking the rules, nothing more, and with much less sporting advantage than the likes of the rules that Leicester, west brom, bournemouth, man city, Newcastle have all broken.

Uefa conference is the European equivalent of JPT. Nice enough to win but completely irrelevant and doesn't really count for anything, it's a participation trophy.

Keep. It's not that big of a deal and will be old news by August, there's a world cup between now and then. Boro (and some of our fans for some reason) can clutch their pearls as much as they like - if Boro had gotten promoted, do you think they wouldn't scout their opponents because of some moral duty? No, they'd be doing it every week. The act is just not that naughty. Its a technical fail, and disrupted this season, but next season is a fresh chance - if we keep the core we can win this league at a canter.

Baz plus back four will be a revelationary redemption for many fans.

I think the public (us) can get involved here. There is nothing in the rules that says a member of the public can't go and stream training sessions, if they are not trespassing (which you can do at Boro, Oxford etc) We could stream all of Middlesbrough's training in the days leading up to our game with them (or all of their games, for that matter) and show them on YouTube. Then it becomes impossible to prove if a member of saints staff views the YouTube videos. And eventually sanity will prevail and they'll either remove the rule or clubs will stop training in public.

Feels a bit like justice, hull won their games on the pitch. And best of all we don't have to lose to them again next season the awkward bastards.

No they've been taking breaks, feigning injuries to have a breather. I'm watching now and there is not much football being played.

Scored a good goal against Liverpool.

These past examples were not cheating, they are just more evidence that this is normal outside of the league we happen to be be in. It's not "spying", it's "scouting", and it really isn't that big a deal. Personally I think they should just scrap the rule and clubs will self police by securing their training ground like we have like any prem club has, like any European club has, if they don't want people scouting their training...

There aren't that many clubs you can do it to. No-one has spied on saints for example, because staplewood is a secure site.

I only get 3 posts so being very careful with what I can say here. I can with absolute certainty confirm that none of those ingredients belong in carbonara and whichever one ingredient egg refers to is crazy talk. Ironic, given that egg is in there. Egg... Pepper... Guanciale... A hard cheese mf. Like pecorino romano. Pasta, if you are completionist. Nothing the fuck else.

Might strengthen the appeal if we can show this is not club sanctioned activity and the perpetrator(s) have been sacked.

Even with a pessimistic view on outgoings, we still have a very good chance of a very good season next year, that team looks decent (and missing fellows) and it's likely we would find another couple of gems. Let's be honest, this league is far more entertaining than the one above, so this is not particularly devastating news, it's only the money that we miss, but 2 yrs down is still in the fun zone. 4pts is no issue at all.@ Still a chance we play hull and lose too, and in that case we're in a similar situation anyway.

Assuming that saints will never be allowed to play again, what happens to the stadium? Can eastleigh use it maybe? Would be kind of fun to have a 30k stadium and we all switch to support Eastleigh through the various fun leagues. And what happens to the player contracts etc? Do they just get cancelled?