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People using John Barnes and Saka as examples of popular role models is crazy, when the level of racist abuse they both got was insanely high every time they made the smallest mistake. Beckham got hate for being a prick on the pitch and getting sent off when we needed him, saka got hate because he didn't score a penalty, there IS a difference in standards when judging players. I don't say it because I know people on here would melt over it, but I definitely noticed a difference in treatment of blond, blue eyed Ramsdale when he arrived (and immediately conceded a couple of dodgy goals), and the treatment that calamity McCarthy receives, someone who literally jumps out of the way of the ball on his goal line, compared to a certain young prospect who plays in goal for us (and who has zero attitude problems).

Fish rot starts from the gut, just for info.

Just a quiet call for posters on this thread, it sounds like this nic poster is experiencing some challenges with their mental health, and when they post like above, it might be kinder to ignore them than antagonise them. I will only post this once on the matter for this reason. I'm sure they will read this. I'd say take a breath, step away from this forum, and logically consider whether your quality of life could improve if you find someone to speak to, potentially a professional listener or therapist. You don't have to answer to this or any post, you don't have to feel defensive, we don't know each other and never will, just take it as well meaning advice and give it some thought next time you are feeling calm. I can highly recommend a social media break too as it seems like it is a trigger point for you. The voices on this forum should ultimately be an irrelevance, and the frustration you feel could just be a project of conflict within yourself - something that you can work through with the help of others. Just something to think about.

I guess it comes down to whether we want to have threads that LGBT allies shouldn't come into because there is homophobic content in them, or whether we want that stuff removed. I've made a couple of reports on here for the really horrific stuff, one of which was dead body pictures on the terrorist attack thread, and the moderators added a trigger warning to the thread title. Maybe we should do the same one for this one, (may contain homophobic and/or transphobic views), or move it to the Muppet board. A lot of people don't want to see "banter" that pokes fun at LGBT people, or homophobic jokes about our own fan representatives, on a site supposedly for all saints fans.

I don't know why, or why not. That's why I asked. why would fan advice make our next manager more or less likely to be LGBT+? Is it a reference to a particular manager? (Or lallana?)

Why?

Southampton interim manager Tonda Eckert's main tactical change has been introducing a clear, disciplined pressing structure and a focus on cohesive attacking movements, which has reportedly re-energised the squad. Under previous manager Will Still, a criticism was a lack of focus on what substitutes should do, and a generally low mood. Eckert, by contrast, has implemented a simpler, more direct approach that emphasizes: Renewed energy and collective standards: Eckert has re-established collective standards and improved morale in a squad that had lost direction. Detailed positioning: He has reportedly given specific instructions, particularly to central midfielders, which has allowed wide players like Tom Fellows and Ryan Manning to get into more attacking positions. Less in-match disruption: Some observers have noted that Eckert makes fewer disruptive changes during matches, which may provide more consistency.

Lots of people with problems, not seeing many (realistic) solutions. Look at who is out there right now. If we we are waiting for a corberan or a farke, I think that's ok. https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials

Seems like a fair bit of competition for managers, and only low quality available. We're in a good position to hold steady with tonda and see if the landscape improves in December January. Middlesbrough more attractive than us right now. Waiting to see who gets sacked from the top leagues over the next couple of months is a valid strategy.

Betting closed, with tonda top at the time. I wouldn't mind him, if he gets it we should get behind him, he's already the most successful saints manager we've had since the promotion year.

I was replying to someone making the point that we had to lose so many games before he was dropped. It was two.

We lost twice before baz was dropped, to stoke and hull. The 8 games with mccarthy, we won 1, drew 3, lost 4. The 2 games with baz back, We've won both of them. Any manager with a brain will pick the keeper we win with, and that's baz...

Odds check: Rodgers, Carrick and corberan shortening. Eckhert, Martin and O'Neil lengthening.

Us getting a win is unusual, hard to know what our celebration patterns are.

We looked good going forward, but wood having a mare, and defence in general slow to react. Baz keeping us in it with a couple of excellent saves, I've not read the comments on here yet but assume some humble pie being eaten! Think we'll score a couple more second half, actually fun to see us play the early balls more today. Now I'm off to see what you lot said during the game...