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One mans bravery can be another mans desperation.

Who said it was, Paul Allen,Window.

Best post i have sen for a long time Give It To Ron.

Seems to be a lot of ITKs making the assumption that it was the buyers who publicised their interest in buying a particular club. Real ITKs say this doesn't happen until the deal is done. I wonder which ITKs are right.

People need to realise that it is what is between the ears that count. Every CB (bar Svennson) we have had for god knows how many years are SLOW WITTED,and have been continually beaten to the ball at set-pieces by smaller men.

Think he means you are an unquestioning brown-nose Badger.

Hence my Dogma thread Rockie. He knows only one way,and will pursue it into Div 1 if allowed to.

I have not seen one comment from him so far that suggests that any problems are not the sole fault of the players. Considering that he picks the plaeyrs and tells them where and how to play,he needs to start looking at himself and his coaches. The lads may be raw,but they are capable of a whole lot better under better direction.

My views are consistent. Don't remember forcing you to read any thread.

No,just too much time on my hands. Still valid points. Players don't like it when all the blame is put on them,and that is 100% FACT.

Yet again from JP it is all the players fault and nothing to do with him or the coaching. If he carries on in the same vein he will soon lose the dressing room,just like Burley did. These boys may still be grateful for the chances they are getting,but this will soon wear off. Perry and Wooton will already be getting fed up with being the whipping boys. Getting the impression that JP has an ego to match Lowes'.

Why can't you just accept that most fans now have a lower level of commitment. To say that they are crap supporters is about as stupid a thing as anyone could say. You are a dinosaur.

Spot on UP.

Lowe likes to look on supporters as customers and consumers rather than fans with an emotional stake in the club. He can hardly then complain when they do not buy the product he is offering,because they do not like it anymore. Football has gone down the road of alienating supporters,sacrificed on the altar of the great god MONEY. Your views on supporters are now out of date LWS.

They have the assets necessary. They just don't have the guts to back their judgement.

We still have 5 players costing us £3m a year and not playing. They have missed the mark by a mile.

...in what they are doing,Lowe and Wilde would put up the neccessary personal guarantees to cover our unsecured debt,whereby we could keep well clear of administration for the amount of time it would take to get our finances in kilter with our position in the football world. All of our high-earners should be out of contract at the end of the season,leaving us in a much better position. Lowe and Wilde,put up or **** off!

Think it is realistic to assume that it is a 50/50 split between not going because of Lowe,and those unhappy with experiment/performances.

SOG,agree with you for the first time ever. Is this a hallelujah moment?

There is one easy option. Accept the limitations of the players and set up the team to take that into account. It is not rocket science.

The solution to our current problems is to set the team up intelligently to take into account our strengths and weaknesses against the strength and weaknesses of the opposing teams. At the moment we are just playing like a bunch of 8 year olds.I like watching 8 year olds play,but i would not expect a professional team to play that way. I have seen nothing to suggest JP knows how to set up a professional team in such a competitive league.

JP has brought in 6 creative? players and only 2 defenders. And our biggest problem is defending. Think the fans will quickly come to the conclusion that JP is as cluless as he looks on the touchline.

Have never subscribed to the false view that football fans prefer an attractive team to a winning one.

SOG,there is no sign that JP has the foggiest about defending in this league.

Your as deluded as Lowe and JP if you think Saints fans regard playing a few passes to each other while the opposition looks on unconcerned,counts as being entertained. Not to mention not being able to hit a barn door.