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Mmmm. That's illogical. Once upon a time there was a horse. My father is a unicorn so fairies exist is your answer. If we talk about e.g. Bolton, they ended up losing money because of poor decisions. Some of that was undoubtedly due to poor recruitment which is a large cost and which ultimately leads to costs becoming difficult/impossible to manage. That we have avoided doing so thus far is in part because the way football is managed now is different, in part because we did manage to 'make' money by selling some players and are likely to do so again and because we have richer (possibly, no-one knows and/or knows where the money - most of it being 'paper money', anyway - comes from), because there are lots of fun 'accounting practices' on the go and rules that aren't fit for purpose, partly because we're only three years into SR's tenure and we did start off 'stable' (but skint) and so on. In other industries, had we bought a few million Sinclair C5s at £100,000 each and been convinced we could get a 250% mark-up on them we would have gone bust. Is Edozie good enough to be a C5? Onuachu? Archer? I suspect accounting practices will reduce any 'losses'. The thing you get from reading this forum is that proper research and applied knowledge on thought is severely lacking in places, at times. Not necessarily with the poster, per se, but you do see posts from people who have no knowledge, yet opine from a degree of certainty of them being so knowledgeable. Some don't. Dare I say, MLG does at least attempt to look for information and then use it. As for Parsons, he's a businessman with a business background. In today's world that probably means he knows fuck all and has a load of soundbites to sell to the unknowing while Martin peddles his snake-oil round the corner. So in some respects, notwithstanding FF's views above and as an historian he does pay heed to facts but I get the impression might be susceptible to a sound-bite despite his avowed cynicism, he probably has nothing to add that any other mid-level business person would i.e. he effectively follows a script and is stupid, because most business people actually are - what they do to succeed is be committed and spot opportunities (assuming they're entrepreneurial) so nothing to add at all but that's not a problem per se; he doesn't have to be a 'football person' and 'football' is now nothing but business. So you could argue that he's actually a good appointment. As for him eating humble pie after relegation (after promotion after relegation) well.... The actual point of this, rather than just unpicking others' posts, is to state that 'Yes', the ownership i.e. SR are useless and we should be rid of them. As football is a product and becoming very Americanised, however, we are going nowhere as is the industry, as is the sport. I'd suggest that if you like football try non-league/lower leagues or accept your place in the established order and go along and clap, regardless. And be grateful for survival. When I put it that way, Martin Semmens appears a visionary.

Which, if you look at it, is quite common in that league.

Not Cooper. I think Forest did well in spite of him, not because.

Will Still. Not a bad shout, actually.

A likely team: Giving Bazinga Handball Merchant, Jack 'Where's my man?' Stephens, Jan 'Where do I stand?' Bednarek, Juan 'Ouch, that hurt' Larios Flying 'Chicken Liver/gasteroenteritis' Down(es) Samuel 'Fell over my own feet' Edozie, Will 'I ever be a footballer?' Smallbone, The very small Scotsman, Kamaldeen 'Watch me run and scuff a shot wide' Sulemana, Ross 'Where's the physio room?' Stewart I can see that team breaking yet more records.

Isn't that dangerous? Carrying a coach by bus?

I agree about the no substance. Disagree he has any style though. I don't know who said it* but when I watched bits of it I thought "Those egos will never see land". * The ego has landed. No idea where the quote is from.

Because that's what sensible people think? Although I have never done anything bar dislike him.

I like bridges.

I think you're talking about a thing called a 'conscience'. They're no longer in fashion, soz. I don't know if it's quite the same with RS in his situation. The closest comparator I can think of is Sam McQueen and he gave it five years and didn't get close to coming back whereas RS kind of has. SM was also younger and came across as being quite thoughtful. No idea of RS' situation but I assume at some point he'll have to start to think about things longer-term, probably at the next injury date. And we don't know what these injuries are, either. Larios now appears to be playing regularly a bit and he's been off for a very long time too (but he's also younger). I'd probably have to wait until the middle of next year to see how they've done. Another (genuine) injury might prompt concern about them possessing the requisite conditioning/physical capability which they themselves will have to address.

* Nods head * Isn't this the same problem as managing the overpaid, pampered 'S T A R S !!!' of today? They expect praise, it's normal and it reinforces their idea that they're 'special and above you'. Telling them they're tossers is wrong: they're 'special and above you', who are you mere peasants to do anything other than worship them? The only one who has shown the requisite humility (possibly two) is Fernandes (and Ramsdale) and they're the best two. So to answer Lighthouse's continued point that he makes that kissing someone's arse makes them think that's what they 'deserve' and praising them for being crap will make them better is bullshit. Some of them patently aren't good enough so shouldn't be there just stealing a living because they can - boo them. Some of them possibly don't try hard enough and give their all for the team, so boo them. That's the correct thing to do, if you deem it. Clapping them and reinforcing their self-interest isn't. The question as to the end result is moot: that's bred into them earlier, hence why we used to like Scandanavians because of their pragmatism, etc. The likes of Vestergaard at Leicester seem to indicate that's a thing of the past. Let's go shopping in Portugal instead for players whose names end in 'F': Fonte and Fernandes being examples. Praise used to be earned and not thrown around because it was something of value. Last time I looked, clapping someone (except when done sarcastically) was a positive affirmation and so praise.

The only one to clap would be Fernandes.

Is that his way of saying he's leaving then? As the only way he can help us is to leave/not play.

Birmingham and Wrexham. Who else will beat us next year?

Gallons?

He could play for Sholing. Just do remember to update his font of all knowledge page though.

Russell, is that you?

Too busy watching Jamie White ... .

No.

It's ok. Most of us understood the tongue-in-cheek nature of your comment and felt no need to do anything other than agree with you quietly.

I really don't believe anyone would talk to you (wife and son aside). The way you shoot down poor Fabrice Sibley and Gio is brutal so I don't know what those people in foreign airports would think.

I think he's left you for someone called 'Lucy'.

There's a bloke called 'Carrello' ...

Positivity corner = the corner where the away fans stand cause they know they're coming away with 3 points.

Well said.