Ken Tone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13012150 Another Muslim? --- A man has appeared in court accused of grooming 22 girls in the UK via the internet. Paul Anthony Wilson, 20, from Birmingham, appeared before the city's magistrates to face 43 charges Why no thread on this bloke, with the heading "Christians grooming children" ? This is recent, today's news, not from 2003. I've no idea if he is religious or not, but then nor do we have any idea if the 'muslims' refered to in the OP are religious either. They are all despicable, but trying to make this look like it is a race/religious issue is pretty despicable too.

A draw for me. Huddersfield have a harder run in than Posh. If we win at Orient we go above Huddersfield anyway, with 2 games in hand, if they draw, and it would give us a better safety margin over Posh. But second best is a Posh win.

Even odder, why is this being published by the paper now when the investigation was in 2003, and why is the Telegraph apparently quoting something said to the Times? Will you also start a thread about abuse in Christian children homes, Dune, or maybe about abuse by Catholic priests? Every society, and most sub-groups of society, has sick bastards in it.

Thanks for posting that link. A good article, hereby 'bumped' for others to see.

All religions have rules that are adhered to more or less strictly. As you say it is interest that breaks strict Muslim interpretation. We used to have similar objections in Christianity. ...look at the word 'usury' and see its usage in Shakespeare for example. Or for that matter see expulsion of the money lenders in the New Testament. But we have gradually overcome our qualms! I imagine there must be some very strict Christian sects that still have such rules though.

Lol Normans go home to France I say. And as for those Saxons.....

Yeah. It's surprising how few people know the "Or to put it another way get your arses down here " quote. From one of his lesser known plays, the football-based "The Comedy of Errors".

He was another part of the Wilde 'legacy' wasn't he? Ego trip for channel island based business man, to sign local lad and play the big shot back home.

There is no such thing as 'buried' for a Saints game. Were you not at the Leeds game where we were 3 up at home well into the game, and still lost ? I can get more worried when we're 2 up than when we're nil all!

From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remembered- We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentlemen in England now-a-bed Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, Or to put it another way get your arses down here

So he can't cover goalkeeper or striker as well? One trick pony!

Surely they will announce it sometime? Last 'official' news was plymouth's OS saying he was impressed by us but was taking 24 hours to think it over and discuss with his parents ..and that was before the weekend.

Yeah. I reckon they'll get more like 13 or 14 points from their run in, not 12 or less as others predict .... 4 wins and a draw or two, from the 6 games. But we should be able to better that anyway, getting 19+ points from our 9 games. And we'll probably have to do that anyway, to make sure there's no way peterboro will catch up from behind. 6 wins, 1 draw and maybe 2 defeats as our safety margin --surely achievable if we really are good enough for promotion?

Not sure so many people do feel Harding is crap. I for one rate him highly, and did not understand why we bought Dickson (who is also good) when we already had Mills as cover anyway.

One of the best April fools this year was one paper topping this by claiming that Fulham players had been instructed to make the moon dance their goal celebration

Lol ...fair summary! Overall I'd go with 'mixed and unpredictable'. If he was a young player I'd say he showed enough raw talent that one day he'd maybe be great. But actually he's 29(?) ,at his peak, and what is more on saturday he was playing in what is reportedly his favourite position, just behind the strikers. (We were playing a diamond with him at the front, so it is totally unfair to blame Guly for a weak right side as someone did above). This was a game in which he ought to have shone. But the fact is he didn't have a particularly good game, and we looked a lot better after the substitutions playing 4-4-2. To what extent that was due to the formation change or the player change is a matter of opinion -- bit of both IMO.

I thought Merlion had gone bust too, or was that just the Infinity Homes subsidiary? He has a real Midas touch!

cf my ....."If you are one of a whole load of people doing identical jobs, with identical skills and qualifications, LIFO is more likely to apply" above . Large airlines have lots of pilots, basically all doing same job with same qualifications and difficult to distinguish different skill levels. Mind you, age discrimination laws are making pay increments etc based on long service more dodgy than they were.

Errmm.... I took him to mean that Chamberlain's season was in doubt, not the whole club's. If he isn't even being assessed for 2 weeks he may well be out for the rest of the season. If I had to choose between Chamberlain and Lallana it would be Lallana every time for me too btw. In 2 or 3 years' time, who knows?

In such situations there are "good practice" procedures, "legally all right" procedures , and "sod it, so try and take us to an industrial tribunal if you can" procedures. IF your firm follows best practice it will either now consult with employees and unions to agree redundancy criteria, or it will have already done that and have some in place. LIFO is one possible and legally acceptable criterion. Unions tend to like it, so it is more common in highly unionised firms and the public sector. Even there though, it is usually only one of a list of criteria .. a 'tie-buster' if you like if all other things are equal. If you are one of a whole load of people doing identical jobs, with identical skills and qualifications, LIFO is more likely to apply. In most cases jobs vary and the firm will first specify which sub-category of jobs it needs to lose, then look at employees' suitability to do said job , then .... etc, maybe finishing with LIFO.

It's tough out there at present. No guarantee you'd get another job. And if your company like most, just pays basic compulsory redundacny pay, it would be a few quid.

I read somewhere that average speeds are dropping, as people try to save fuel. It is certainly noticeable in my car that if I can bear to stick to 60 mph on the cruise control rather than 75 mph, the difference in fuel consumption is dramatic.... can be 10 mpg or thereabouts. (It is also noticeable and slightly worrying that using cruise control in itself, at any speed, saves fuel ...the car's computer is apparently a better driver than I am!) Judging by the effect of the variable speed limits on the M25 at peak times, a slower but steady average speed may actually reduce congestion .. and that may add to the perception that the roads are less busy.

Preferably not till next season so any points deduction will be then. They'd not be relegated with 10 points off this year.

The legal position is complicated, and different from place to place. Some councils just paint the lines which have no real legal status on their own beyond 'advisory', whilst others put them there with proper traffic enforcement orders, signs on posts etc. The usual interpretation is that you can park on them outside of any hours shown on posts, or otherwise outside school opening hours..some say outside of 10 minutes either side of start/end times of school day. To be honest though, regardless of the legal niceties a) if an accident happens when you are ignoring a legally purely advisory sign such as these lines, you will receive very little sympathy from a court if charged with reckless behaviour in some form, and b) they are there to protect kids by giving drivers clear lines of sight of pedestrians, so anyone who parks on them during the school day is a selfish, irresponsible **** IMO regardless of the law, and that includes parents who stop on them for 'just a moment to let little johnny get out' ... by doing that they are putting other children at risk. I was always grateful for the zig zag lines outside King Edward's when we were at the Dell, because people tended not to park on them in evenings or at weekends even though the school was closed, gate locked shut, and it was perfectly safe and legal to park, so left me a nice easy space.

Sounding suspiciously like you're slagging off Tory policy there Dune. Surely you're all in favour of the free market in schools, rather than propping up lame duck schools by forcing parents to send their children there, rather than to a better one down the road?