Ken Tone

What worries me is that we can't see their legs in that picture. Obviouisly doing a Tom Cruise and standing on a box to make themselves look taller Do we really want a 5'6" tall centre back?

Apparently the police helicopter was already grounded because of the weather conditions, which if that is true, does you wonder why this one was flying. Surely London must be one of the world's most regulated airspaces?

Ok. That's helpful...all the essential information in one line. Thanks

Given he was supposedly poised to sign last night, I logged on just now expecting to see him confirmed as a saints player. Is there any actual news?

But we've already beaten them to the signing of Ramirez ("He's not going to southampton" --Lawrenson) So why not another one? If he's as good as Lundekvam was in his prime, that'll do me.

Now you see, I was believing that story till I got to your deliberate incorrect spelling of 'licence'. Then I knew you were joking!

Certainly looked like a shoulder injury. Might be dislocated or could be a collar bone? Could be serious or virtually nothing!

That'll help the cash flow then.

No more than usual Mack

you could try wearing a bright red uniform

That's my personal dream scenario. Takeover by trust after relegation has become a certainty, with not enough money to run the club properly, property developer with dodgy motives owning Fratton ,and another points deduction as they start L2. Result -- years more fun for us. But it seems the dedution carrying over is not automatic. I fear Jimmy_D's reasonig sounds too disappointingly correct

The deciding factor in all this is whether or not they'd get to keep Fratton Park somehow if they were liquidated. With it , many of their fans will still feel it is the same club, whatever league they're in. Without it, they'd just be another Havant & Waterlooville or Moneyfields.

Anyone know if the great and always well-informed Neil Allen is correct on this below? Or is it possible that they might come out of admin late enough and with few enough points to be relegated anyway, and get the points deduction next season , like we did? Otherwise they'll have got away with it ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment From Jim Jim : ] Will the minus 10 points be applied on exiting administration, regardless of cut off dates and league position? Wednesday January 9, 2013 13:34 Jim [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime]13:34 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text] [TABLE] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD] Neil: Yes. Once Pompey come out of administration (ie the FL grant the golden share) the deduction will be enforced. [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime]12 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text] [TABLE] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD][Comment From frattonfan frattonfan : ] Neil Please don't ignore my quesion about the points deduction carrying over to next season if we come out of admin too late. This is a real worry. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Wednesday January 9, 2013 14:12 frattonfan [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime]14:13 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text] [TABLE] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [TD]Neil: The points deduction will remain on hold until they come out of administration, whenever that will be. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

Unless of course they are liquidated in which case the FA, the PFA and the FL can say what they like, surely ordinary creditors get as much priority as the ex-players?

I bought one of these (not absolutely sure if it was that make/brand actually) before a long haul flight busines journey. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Members-Titan-Cabin-Carrier-Wheels/dp/B0032OAPZQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1357737680&sr=8-3 If you're not on the cheapest of cheap airlines , that even ought to qualify as carry-on cabin luggage if you need it to. It is a bit of a squash for 3 suits, and you won't get much else in the case if you do take that many suits, but it's a damn sight better than packing in a conventional case and there's only a little creasing if you pack really carefully.

Don't fall for their propaganda. The islands have never really ever belonged to Argentina, so they can't want them 'back' . They put a semi-officially (lots of corruption involved) backed 'governor' and about 20 men on part of the islands around 1830 , some 70 years after several European countries had separately discovered and claimed them in dispute with each other, before Argentina even existed as a country. Those men murdered that governor, and were expelled as pirates, mostly by the Americans who were annoyed that they had attacked their whaling ships...this only 20 years after America had been at war with Britian, and when they were still far from our friendly allies. The Argentinian pseudo-legal claim is based mainly on the fact that the Pope 'gave' all that part of the world to Spain in the fifteenth century, before it had even been discovered or mapped, and Spain gave up their rights to that part to their ex-colony of the River Plate as they left it. The River Plate state later evolved into Argentina. There was no indigenous population of the Islands before European occupation, and there has never been an established Argentinian population there. In fact I doubt if any Argentinian citizen has ever been born there.

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I wonder how signficant this belated cost cutting by Birch is? In mid(?) February, PFC will have been in adminstration for a year, the automatic maximum for a normal business. They (PKF) will have to approach the court to get permission to carry on beyond that date. That ought to be fairly routine, but not if they are running at an ongoing loss. So, if the HNWs are no longer baling out the losses, Birch will have to jettison everything he can to make the court agree to keep this golden goose going for PKF. He'll have been in no hurry at all to agree a deal with the university, or anyone else, for training facilities for example. Or maybe it is worse (better!) than that ? Maybe Birch sees the end finally approaching and is cutting all the ongoing commitments he can, to finally do his job and save as much of the February parachute money as he can for the creditors. Does anyone know if the payment is due in before or after the anniversary of administration? That could just be significant

Have you ever played rush goalie before?

Depends on the relative size of parachute installments. Are they the same, or might they get more in February than they got last time? If so and they liquidate then, thereby avoiding having to give the football creditors priority, the nmaybe there would be more cash for the creditors as a whole?

Didn't the HNWs only guarantee to carry on underwriting the club until the 15th January hearing ? ...you know , when the trust was still claiming it would be 'taking over in a few weeks'? Before they admitted that the 15th will only be to set a hearing date. BTW if any forum adminstrator reads this, I've paid my £5 for this year again, and filled in a 'contact us' form 3 times over the past 3 weeks or so, but still am shown as only a registered user and have had no reply to my queries. Not good.

Didn't the football league limit the amount of unsecured debt they could carry forward, as part of the golden share conditions? So if the scenario you describe happened it would in effect mean liquidation anyway, becasue they'd be expelled from the league and could not go on financially.

He's one of the players on loan, so he already has a permanent contract, with Swindon. It's no big sacrifice for him to stay on his Swindon wage and not have to move house, rather than move to Bradford. It's the monthly contract ones that will be leaving for permanent contracts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20798561 now confirmed as a fake

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