Ken Tone

Renew now, then go on holiday later in the year. Overall you'll spend no more than you would have done with the installments --just the other way round to previous years. This has been really badly handled by the club. No excuse for such short notice. Still no actual formal announcment about the apparent decision not to move the way fans ..which would have affected whether I renewed in same seats or moved. K.

Well things are going better. He's not in jail and apparently he is still getting paid !!! K.

I even went to the lengths of looking at lawyers' and insolvency experts' web sites, only to find a comment that the FL insolvency policy is notoriously hard to find. What possible excuse can they have for keeping this policy secret? If even the main regulator doesn't act in an open manner, how can anyone have any faith that any football club will act with probity? Seems to me that anyone who trades with a football club is taking a bigger risk than the banks did with all those toxic mortgages for Billy-Bob and Chuck and their mates. K.

Brian: “You have to be different!” The Crowd: “Yes, we are all different!” Small lonely voice: “I'm not!” Bit like being a saints fan surrounded by plastics K.

If anyone is really short of things to do , here is the Administrators report for the creditors meeting last month http://www.uhy-uk.com/media/news/PFC%20-%20Report%20to%20creditors%20Adobe%207.pdf Some gob-smacking amounts owed to agents in particular K.

Well having now skim-read the league rules I can nothing in there that would lead to Pompey having another points deduction next year reagardless of admin, cva or not. The only reason would be another offence, such as not payiong what is due to another club. There is perhaps a possibility that they will default on the full payments due to other clubs as and when they come out of administration. Or if they stay in admin there may well be further payments due that they default on. It looks to me that Bournemouth, Rotherham etc were hit because new companies were formed and applied to be admitted in place of the original ones. So those rules read to me I'd say that pompey fans can be reasonably confident of no extra points deduction next season unless the club officially folds (because no CVA) and re-forms after it becomes a FL club. That probsably explains why we have no clear agreement on any deadline in terms of administration or a CVA .. there isn't one! But the whole thing is clouded. Typical football lack of clarity. No wonder there is so much money wasted on dubious deals etc. K.

Or do you mean the Southampton People's Liberation Front? (Someone had to say it. All these years and Monty Python still lives on) K.

We seem to keep getting contradictory messages about the date for Pompey to avoid a FL points deduction. Does anyone have the definitive correct answer to the question, when do they have to come out of administration and/or have a CVA in place to avoid a further deduction? Or is it that actually there is no definitive answer because the league have some discretion over this rather than a hard and fast rule? Could they start the season still in admin with no points deducted? K.

Quite Just about everything he's done seem to me to be ignoring that formal duty he has as admnistrator to get the best deal for the creditors. I just can't understand why he didn't send back to their home clubs all loan players the day he arrived , why he didnt sell anyone he could when he got permission to do so and indeed why he hasn't done deals with others he can't sell, just to release them for free to avoid their wages. Now he's appointed a new chief exec, offered new contracts to players and even to poor old Linvoy Primus -- with whose mony? -- the creditors' money in effect. Every penny he spends now leaves less for the creditors. Does no one regulate administrators? K.

The difference is that last July we had just been taken over, there was a wave of relief and even euphoria at our mere existence... and everyone knew we had a new team in charge and that much had to be set up from scratch. I simply cannot understand why we are not selling STs yet. It is just plain bad sales technique not to capitalise on the goodwill that was there at the end of the season following Wembley and the late good run of results. Goodwill fades over time. Sad saints-addicted gits like me will buy a ticket anyway, but others waver and some will not now bother to get a full ST, relying on buying tickets game by game .. and some of them will not attend every game. K.

No idea if this has any truth behind it but I notice that below the Murty article in the Echo someone has commented as below..... K. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- legod7, totton says... 3:21pm Fri 21 May 10 I e-mailed the ticket office last week about season tickets. Just had a reply "An announcement is coming out on Monday. Season tickets on sale from Tuesday"

+1 k.

Of course a few years back Swiss bankers were commonly referred to as the Gnomes of Zurich. --and now these are being publicised with the old kit? Say no more. I sense a conspiracy. ;-) K.

Well as Uncle Dave Merrington would say, 'in all fairness' that's a pretty impressive array of vacuum cleaners. In fact one of them may even be a carpet shampoo machine. I wonder how many CCC clubs or even premiership clubs could match it? I think you should all be ashamed of taking the **** like this. It seems to me that this is clear evidence that oldham are well-placed to develop as a club for the future. Maybe we should email their fans saying so? K. (Is there an icon for sarcastic?)

On a day out? For the shopping? To see the Beatles museum? K.

Agreed I heard a few comments that implied he was a decent bloke too ... at least by footballers' standards! Not too convinced by reports from somewho knows someone who .... so am not expecting him to sign. If he did you'd have to say it was a bit of a coup, but not totally out of the question. He's just turned 32 so getting on a bit but still got a few years in him. He's been a top player -- even top scorer in the premiership and an international, but his star has waned. He'll be looking for big wages for his last 2 or 3 years, but his fitness hasn't been great lately and his game depends on it, so he may not get that. Ironically given he is a striker, I remember him running down the right wing and getting in many good crosses in his time here. So overall, not likely, but damn good news if there's anything in it. How long has he left on his Stoke contract is probably the main question? If a fair time, why would he move unless for more wages that we ought to be paying? If soon to run out, then maybe. Mind you, I think his wife comes from round here and may be homesick? K.

I presume you take size XXL? K.

It says Liebherr regularly fails to attend games. So he must have been unhappy for much of the season then? ;-) Wonder who the look-alike is that sits in the directors' box? K.

My opinion (and it is no more than opinion!) is that Cortese is one of those managers that works by putting pressure on his staff. He will have been disappointed that we didn't reach the play-offs after allowing Pardew to spend relatively big money in January, and I expect he will have expressed his disappointment. I also expect (since Pardew himself keeps saying it) that he made it clear the Pardew needs to be producing within 18 months of his appointment. No doubt there will have a been a slightly 'sticky' conversation or two recently. IF we are not in the top 2 , or at least close to the top 2 fairly early next season, of course Pardew's job wil be under threat then. (Note-- Stu) IF Pardew is failing then, Cortese would want to bring someone else in before the January window with time to put things right. None of the above means that Cortese was ever close to sacking Pardew in the last week. K.

That is the third time you have posted along these lines on this thread. "Some people including myself" is pretty much just you mate. K.

Are these figure just their salaries? With or without win bonuses, appearance money etc And bear in mnd that most premiership players will earn much more via 'image rights' etc on top of actual wage. It is, quite simply, crazy. k.

Think you've got the wrong idea about the meaning of the word 'journeyman'. It comes from the old status of someone who has qualified in a trade after an apprenticeship and able to charge a full day rate (french - journee for day) but is not a master craftsman, so now the word basically means solid, but not exceptional at his job .. nothing to do with how many clubs. As to the actual point, it's a bit harsh on Hammond to call him a L1 journeyman -- IMO he's a bit better than that, but I can't see any premiership club ever wanting him, and a prem club did want Surman ergo Surman is probably better than Hammond K.

If you look at it as an outsider that is effectively almost what they did when St Mary's opened. The chapel end was clearly intended to be the home 'kop', as a whole end, with away fans given a bit of an end, round into a corner at the opposite end. Unfortunately football fans don't think like that ..hence the noisy fans went in the northam instead of the chapel, to be next to the way fans. Meanwhile the club decided not to let the away fans get too close to the hospitality seats, so they tend to get the end before they get the corner, and also the segregation gap next to the away fans has grown to a ludicrous size, bigger than originally needed, thereby squashing the actual 'kop' into only half of the northam. K.

And I wonder who our directors are? K.

Was impressed by the southend fans again. Not only "that's why we're going down" but also "ce sera, we're going to shrewsbury" and "one team in Essex " after our "one team in Hampshire" -- and over 1000 of them from a small club, miles away. Some even stayed to watch our lap of honour in spite of being warned they might then be kept in. Good luck to them. k.