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Yesterday was my first game in the new "wall" as i was away for Forest and my take aways with are that I knew within about 3 minutes i was going to need to move out, it's considerably worse than the Itchen North was and weirdly obsessed with the blue few (i counted four different songs about them in 6minutes in the first half). Moving the away fans was one of the biggest mistakes the club has made to be honest. To think we'd have 6k people who want to stand and make noise all game is naive at best, to think they don't need the away fans to interact with is just dumb. Also the layout of the "rails" means it feels way too cramped and i feel for the nippers in there because there's no way they can see if people are all stood, and if they stand on the seats to get a view then it's actually more dangerous for them

Just want to say a massive thanks to all those that joined in yesterday, Nick and Sam Elijah’s parents were absolutely moved by it, and it really was touching to see the ground (including United) pay their respects. Was a properly hard day all round, and the football felt completely back seat to me (thankfully as the score was crap). I think the moment that hit me the most was Saints brass outside the ground playing his favourite song. https://x.com/saintsbrass/status/1834916337514123529?s=46 RIP top boy miss you mate

For those of you getting to the ground early Saints Brass will be playing a version of Don't Stop Me Now by Queen before the game in tribute as it was Elijah's favourite song

We will start ok, pass the ball around a lot but not really threaten their goal, sometime late in the first half we'll pass the ball to one of their strikers who will score, we will then continue to pass the ball around a lot in completely inconsequential areas of the pitch before they get their second and third in quick succession. The whole game our strikers will be too far apart so there will be absolutely no direct threat, and we'll finish the game with 70% possession, zero shots on goal and 3-0 down. Martin will come out afterwards and say that he learned a lot from the game, thought we played some great football and that he believes in his system.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion you're correct. In the same way i'm entitled to say my opinion is that France doesn't exist. But that doesn't make it factually correct, it just means i can hold an incorrect opinion. As for saying something is "university challenge", it's not, it's an explanation of the fact. That you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means you don't understand it. Starmer and Harris are far more in the Adam Smith tradition than Marxist, as anyone with any factual knowledge of political philosophy and economics would know. You might not like their principles, that's absolutely fine, but saying they're Marxist is just wrong. I don't like Portsmouth, but that doesn't immediately mean i can say Portsmouth isn't part of England, because despite me wanting it to be true, it's unfortunately wrong (though if i ever get into power i'd make it true, cut the bridge to Portsea and install a hard border)

Yeah so neither of those are what you'd count as the traditional western world, and neither of them are starmer or harris. So instead of changing the subject how about answering the first part of the question? I'll re-share it for you incase you missed it. OK so please tell me how Kamala Harris or Keir Starmer are trying to nationalise the entire means of production, create permanent revolution that includes direct democracy, the eradication of class structure and hierarchy, and remove private ownership and capital. Also if you could highlight how they are removing commodities and bringing them into value based structure that disowns the creation of passive capital in the system?

OK so please tell me how Kamala Harris or Keir Starmer are trying to nationalise the entire means of production, create permanent revolution that includes direct democracy, the eradication of class structure and hierarchy, and remove private ownership and capital. Also if you could highlight how they are removing commodities and bringing them into value based structure that disowns the creation of passive capital in the system? Because it seems to me that if you actually think about it in any depth at all you'd realise there is literally no such thing as a marxist politician in any position of power or evene close to it in the western world.

Hi there can you explain to me what Marxism is, because i'm pretty sure you don't know. Just the central tenants please, they're fairly well documented you know so it should be easy.

It was devastating news when i heard, and somehow felt even worse because it was the night before fathers day. I still can't believe he's gone and I don't think going to games will ever feel the same to be honest. That's brilliant to see, really hope the fans turn out for him now and give him the send off he deserves

We've been in contact with the club about it but i think it depends on how much engagement it gets, hopefully if people share this on facebook, twitter, instagram etc. the club will get behind it and have his picture on screen on the 20th minute. Obviously i'm hugely biased here because he was my mate, but i can't think of someone that deserves it more, there was barely a game - home and away - he'd miss and he ref'd games for ex saints countless times, plus Jason Dodd came to his funeral.

I know this would mean the world to @Noodles34 and both him and Elijah's mum will be there for the game, the reason for the 20th minute is because that was the age he was when he passed.

There's been a high (or low depending on how you look at it) bar this season for the worst possible chant our fans can come up with, from stealing that bloody Allez, Allez, Allez crap from liverpool to nicking songs from United, but this one surely must win the @Turkish award for completely and utterly shit chant of the year. It mentions the skates, it over uses the term scummer (seriously we need to stop doing that) and it doesn't come close to scanning as a tune. In fact things like this make me want to stand in silence (and nowhere near our own fans) https://x.com/SargetheSaint/status/1830932936574525505

I don't think the OP's point is as stupid as some people make it. Obviously time will tell but the initial sense is that Martin is as out of his depth at this level as Jones was. His refusal to adapt his style when it's clearly suicidal at the top level (unless you have the backing of an oil nation) screams of a manager way out of his depth. Also Jones was accused of arrogance but Martin seems equally as arrogant to me. The only difference is Martin is deemed to be great by our posh/middle class fans who think there's a "right" way to play football, when the truth is the only right way to play football is to win games. I'd have no issue with Saints playing long ball, shit house football, where the players dived to win penalties and we time wasted from the first minute, if it meant we won every game 1-0. This idea that there's some kind of morally better thing about passing a lot is such pretentious, stuck up bollocks.

Looks like he's off too Forest, and personally I'm glad the skate isn't coming back to be honest. Not sure he'd have offered that much and he'd make Russball even more turgid than it already is. I mean our style is slow enough already, adding him to the mix and we'd be playing walking football

A lot higher than i expected but i should still be ok for a ticket, wonder how many are in the 18+ group? Can't imagine a massive amount as you tend to recognise people when you do aways and I doubt there's much more than 200 odd that do most games

caviar blinis or nothing for me

CHAMPAGNE BAR - Coming soon! We will be converting six of the executive boxes on the top floor of the Itchen North end of the stadium into a new Champagne Bar. This lounge will be available for matchdays and can also be used on non-matchdays as a celebration space for birthdays, anniversaries and much more. More details and the full launch will come later in 2024. https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/whats-changed-at-st-marys-this-season-everything-you-need-to-know-so-far It's what the people are clamouring for, at a time of a cost of living crisis, when people are moaning about the atmosphere, and football has lost it's edge, the only sensible answer is a champagne bar. Live. Love. Laugh everyone, it's bubbles o'clock!

I think the corporate boxes at the back of the Itchen North are being turned into a champagne bar aren't they? Hence why they're closed (and no this really isn't a joke, it's true! God alone knows what's happened to football that we're now having champagne bars pop up)

I didn't go saturday because the trains were a bloody rip off (plus i've done newcastle away loads), but have we finally binned off that god awful library bollocks? I think we sung that at every single away ground last season, which just goes to prove how fucking dumb it is

Looking at the fixture list and based roughly on other seasons, i reckon the "flip" this season will be the fulham away game on 21st December

except the same people who claim it's unfair or impossible to get away tickets for games like Brentford or Bournemouth won't go to Cardiff midweek because it's inconvenient, and then moan others are ahead of them

I can only imagine he'll be on the clubs panel given his status and the way he represents us as The Voice Of The Fans. Honestly i don't know how us plebs ever operated without our public school boy messiah telling us what to think, do and say, we are so unbelievably lucky to have someone with no connection to the city condescend us so often so we don't lose sight of our place in the world. Right i'm off to practice my curtsey and hat doff in case i see him in public

We have some genuinely very, very strange fans in our ranks. On social media this week some where saying Martin should quit now because he's not being backed and deserves better than that. It seems there's a weird cult forming around him the same way we had a weird cult that formed around Ralph. It's almost like some of our fans don't really support southampton, instead they support managers.

Hopefully someone asks Russell Martin what his top three biscuits are, when we are expanding the stadium and adding an aquarium end so we can take advantage of our marine catchment area, and if we're still planning on getting champions league when one of the big clubs slip up. Also looking forward to our social media "influencers" claiming to speak on my behalf again, that was great when they did that, and not at all arrogant and weird Edit to say i almost forgot the most important question: When are the Five Pledges(tm) coming? Honestly i'm sure all of our woes in recent years must be down to the fact we have never published the five pledges

Sounds about right to me, similar sized allocation to brentford but with one game more played. Good news is it looks like non of our aways have been moved for TV in October https://www.premierleague.com/news/4076999?s=09