Mboto Gorge

I really haven’t, it’s a simple question for you to answer. Particularly the stadium one. The hilarious thing is, the majority of your questioning of others are based on straw man fallacies. So you’re being ridiculously hypocritical. You constantly mispresent someone’s argument to make it easier to attack, I even picked you up on it further up on this thread earlier this morning and you conveniently ignored it. And then think you’re being oh so clever by refusing to answer my very simple questions relating to your constant defence of our owners, by labelling them strawman fallacies, which is precisely what you do to others. Absolutely hilarious.

“Straw man fallacies” - meaning you don’t want to actually answer them then? Criticises others for not answering supposed questions then just brushes mine away and labels them “strawman fallacies” when he can’t answer them. What an odious little creep you are

1. You didn’t ask me a question 2.Ive yet to actually see you criticise them, could you point me in the direction of you criticising them please? If you have indeed criticised them, it has a ratio probably in the region of 1/100 against you defending them, which any logically minded person would deduce from that means you’re actually a big fan of them based on your constant defence of them? Would this be fairly accurate? 3. This was the only reason I can think of to think why you’d be seemingly Happy to defend an ownership group that has overseen the worst run of results in the clubs history whilst making mistake after mistake in recruiting players and managers. As I said, any supporter who actually cares about the club, would be very concerned right now about the direction the club is heading in. You appear not to be, which is “utterly bizarre” too. Why is this please? Can you explain why you’re seemingly not concerned? I suspect you’ll reply with “where have I said I’m not concerned?” When it’s fucking obvious from the tone of your questioning that you’re not concerned by the way you’re defending them time after time. So explain why you think the clubs ownership is more positive than negative right now please? 4. so when’s the stadium expansion likely to happen then? Any timescales yet? Your first post about this was probably over a decade ago now

There is no way you’re not on the clubs payroll or at the very least benefitting some way from the club as a result of your input here (probably the FM researcher gig), the way you tirelessly and endlessly dispute any criticism of them with patronising questioning based on tiny tiny irrelevant questions that deflect away from the fact that these are dreadful owners and any fan with their club at heart would not be happy at how the club is being run, which is blatantly obvious by the fact we’ve had the worst results out of all 92 football league clubs over the past 12-18 months. Yet here we are still having to stomach smart arses like you relentlessly defending the indefensible. All to keep the gig of being the official saints FM researcher? Dont worry, I’m sure the club will be happy at your input here so will renew your contract for another year. Meanwhile the rest of the forum users have to sit here and stomach your endless bollocks. Shame you can’t fuck off for another year , golden saints web era that. Any news on that stadium expansion?

Yeah but ignore all that, because apparently their heart is in the right place. Couldn’t make it up with some of these plebs

Why are you randomly asking him a question which has no relevance to what he said? You’re inventing questions up to throw at people when they’ve not even originally countered what you’re asking. Weird

West Ham spend a fortune most seasons and absolutely hate their owners. I wonder if they’ve got fans telling their fellow supporters that their heart is in the right place

I didn’t say it changes what MLG said, it was his apparent stance, based on the fact he regularly sticks up for them and defends them against criticism, coupled with his “it could be a lot worse” comment, that he is fairly comfortable with them being our owners. The meek acceptance by our fans despite how terrible results have been on the pitch, is sad to see to be honest.

Not many other clubs have won just 4 of their last 48 league games, so purely on the football results side of things, both during these last 48 games and over their entire tenure, it couldn’t have gone much worse really though could it? They’ve taken a relatively secure premier league side of 10 years and turned them into a currently lower mid table championship team via a combination of dreadful player and managerial appointments , but it could be worse because their heart is in the right place? Christ the bar is low among some fans isn’t it

We always seem to get turned over here and I just can’t see us getting a result the way things are going. 2-1 defeat

Che Adams is like Alan Shearer compared to this dud

Why even stick him on the bench today if he wasn’t going to come on in a match where we needed a goal and height up front so the obvious change, if we had a decent sub striker, would’ve been to bring him on. Absolutely embarrassing circumstance we find ourselves in with this situation, whereby we have a striker so bad , he’s un-selectable even when there’s a glaring lack of the attributes he was signed to provide. Ridiculous

Care to give your opinion on them then? Or are you going to just endlessly question anything anyone else posts whilst seemingly sitting on the fence when asked for your own views? Fucking tedious

Very well said. I’m caught between wondering whether they’re just plain clueless and stupid or whether they’re thinking they can get away with more “experiments” because they know the fanbase aren’t going to put them under pressure to actually focus on the first team here and now, and stop all this clever bollocks stuff that’s just making them look like exactly what they are , clueless owners. I’d be genuinely amazed if they had the balls to continue these experimental , risky signings from abroad if they’d been given more shit from the fanbase for their failings from last season and beyond .

I agree, he did say that, I’ve not suggested any different, but he was literally all over anyone who even suggested it would be the same old nonsense , as if it was idiotic to think this might be yet another false dawn.

But….but…..MLG was really re-assuring when Spors joined, he said we shouldn’t be being sceptical about things any more and we shouldn’t even suggest that it would be more of the same old crap, even after 3 years of shambolic decisions on players and managers, he suggested we should see this as a whole new slate, so by virtue ignoring the fact that Spors employers are still the same useless owners who’ve led us to decline season after season. He was very clear on this, to the point of being condescending and patronising to anyone who suggested this would be more of the same mismanagement. Spors was the new era apparently and everything now should be judged separately. I don’t get it?

Is it too early to make a judgement on spors as a useless cunt yet?

So what we are saying here is, yet again we should just accept and resign ourselves to a season of achieving far less than we’d have accepted before a ball was kicked in the summer, because yet again our owners have been negligent and incompetent in their recruitment? Brilliant. It’s the saints way now under these idiots.

I wonder if anyone still thinks he missed that open goal against Wrexham just before Stephens scored, because he was “fouled”

By these clowns in charge? They couldn’t address an envelope

The irony is, Onuachu would thrive at this level at a team who play to his strengths. 20 goals plus I’d be willing to bet

Rasmus may aswell have stayed in charge of recruitment based on this signing. Doubt he’d have even picked out a worse striker than this joker

Yes and the irony is, Spors saw him as the main centre forward at the club when he signed him, his comments at the time said so. Well now he will see that come to fruition, This is what he wanted , the guy he signed to be our main focal point. Couldn’t make it up

I agree and basically said as much in my previous comment. Can’t deny that.

Dont get me wrong; he’s got more than enough tools to be doing the job properly and a lot better than he is, but we also have a clear lack of a strong centre forward and focal point being that one is injury prone and the other is worse than most of us. However the issue is also more within the ownership, still will be replaced by yet another mediocre manager and this cycle will never get any better until SR have done us all a favour and left our club . They’re destroying it