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It’s simple, the GMP is still seeking further evidence so it can confirm and press the charges in relation to what actually happened on 24 July in three distinct phases as a far more complex case https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/july/gmp-opens-public-portal-in-appeal-for-further-information-about-events-leading-up-to-footage-filmed-in-manchester-airport-terminal-two/ If the Southport ‘protestor’ can get 3 years for assaulting a copper, with the sheer violence of what was captured on camera at the airport against particularly a female copper and any potentially racially aggravated elements in those prior phases either on the plane, luggage terminal or cafe (the police have to be certain what happened when and where in the chain of events at the trial), the sentences if guilty in the Manchester case could exceed that threshold and more, contingent on any prior track-record as well. They will almost certainly be incarcerated for the violence against the coppers, I know from experience of working with them many years ago that the cops will want/expect that and the judge won’t accept any grandstanding from their new lawyer. No doubt he will make the most of the stamp in an attempt to reduce the sentence. The job of confirming the charges has just become more difficult with the original plank of a brief (under investigation for malpractice himself) who posted the stamp video without the rest of the context in the first place being replaced with Aamer Anwar. Not a pleasant character either but in legal terms this is Bashley’s manager being replaced with someone in the Premier League, so the case has to be watertight. The cases are totally different in their complexity, especially as we don’t really know yet when the motive was behind the Manchester Airport events, hence trying to get witnesses going back to the flight. Whereas the Southport offence’s motivations aren’t hard to figure. Those lads are looking at a jail term though, Anwar will make the most of the stamp and try to claim media coverage compromises a fair trial, all the usual tricks of the criminal law trade in high profile cases. Reality is that the first lawyer, Yakoob, was a huge part of the reason for that. He’s had his 5 more minutes of fame. You asked a reasonable question, but spoiled it with the pathetic hashtag.

Are the Portsmouth cases already underway in the courts? That’s quick from the CPS

Run their club properly, with full focus on scouting, the first team and academy without any gimmicks. It’s what Saints used to do 2009-16 before Les Reed et al and then Semmens, onto Rasmus, thought they were cleverer than everyone else.

I see Aamer Anwar has taken over the case, a high profile grifter replacing a genuinely vile cunt in Yakoob (look up his remarks on women). Yakoob helped stir up a lot of the current, equally as much as Robinson’s misinformation about the Southport killings, disorders with that gross distorted video without the full context. The authorities cannot give Anwar an inch, get the evidence collected on those two lads behaviour, charges in and stack them up like fillings in a Subway sandwich. There needs to be as equally a strong deterrent in the Manchester case with the verdict as there is with the far right violence. No doubt there will be trouble in Rochdale afterwards and more work for the courts but we’ve got to debilitate the extremists on both sides. That would stop all of this two tier bollocks morons like Musk keep coming out with. He clearly followed apartheid closely in his native South Africa https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/01/musk-south-africa-apartheid-chant-malema/# If nothing else, football banning orders are working well, trouble is that the ex-England Travel Club, EDL and Combat 18 boneheads were banned from smashing up Germany’s town and cities this summer at the Euros so they smash up their own instead. Genius.

Immigration was clearly a big driver behind the referendum but even more so was the economic argument of taking back control via levelling up and the promise of moving emphasis away from a multicultural capital. Neither has happened, largely because the Brexit vote was promising things that were very hard to deliver, let alone quickly. The 2019 GE then reinforced that, because as the Conservative pundit Daniel Finkenstein says. Boris was promising big state, levelling up interventionalism in the midlands and north, and small state conservatism in the south, which was already cross about Brexit as it has hit the sectors where their skilled jobs are. Somebody wasn’t going to get what they want, and in the end it was no-one. The only people who did were educated English nats who obsessed about treaties and English exceptionalism. But working people as Phillip Hammond said, didn’t vote to be poorer or for their health service to fall through the floor. History tells us it’s easier to blame someone different to you. And it’s a similar story in a lot of areas in the midlands and north with higher Islamic populations. Young lads getting angry about lack of prospects and not having the manufacturing jobs their grandfathers and in some cases parents had, with austerity then stripping core public services away after the industrial decline 1970s onwards. If immigration fuels the far right, Gaza is fuelling Islamist activists. However, whilst I find them equally as revolting as Robinson’s boneheads, they did get organised and give Labour a few blows on the chin in the GE, taking one likely cabinet ministers’ seat, nearly taking Streeting’s and another, plus Phillips. Their intimidating behaviour was widely condemned and onerous. I’m not keen on TUs but pre-1979 it was a way of collectively organising and giving working people a voice, and it left a long-term void. I’ve seen plenty of comments on here about different treatment, two tier policing which is nonsense. The cops struggled equally in Harehills and post-Southport, as most forces would. Both have been widely condemned cross-party. Harehills was no better, social workers are entitled to go about their duties without violence and intimidation. There will be some stiff sentences arising. On the Manchester thing, which has provided some of the fuel, the GMP are waiting on more information before confirming the exact charges. As with Harehills, if you hit or attack a copper seriously, the sentence is going to punitive. Always has, always will. Finally, people forget the emotions swirling around a tragedy like Southport. It makes all of our hearts cry, it’s just appalling. The parents of the victims need time to put their children to rest now with their lives never the same again, without morons following a far right leader sunning himself in Cyprus grinning as he tweets more misinformation, or masked Islamists in Bolton shouting Allu Akbar. Fuck extremists of all types. But if working class communities want core public services back, want thriving economies again, get organised and put pressure on the main parties to prioritise what’s important. I’m sure the fact more austerity is coming won’t have helped. But don’t think Reform are the answer, becuase their economic strategy was x10 worse than Truss’s as a radical free market clusterfuck.

I’m a Lib Dem voter but even I know your penultimate sentence is incorrect about Harehills and I don’t think a huge amount of Labour https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/yvette-cooper-condemns-leeds-riot/ If disaffected white blokes - which they mostly are - think Robinson has a grain of truth to him, then they’re even thicker than I thought. This whole thing has been driven by his lies and misinformation about the Southport murders and more over the weekend. Look at his criminal record, the guy can’t even lie in bed straight. The Tory right pushed for the referendum - didn’t deliver on any of it because it couldn’t be without many, many years to do it. Didn’t deliver on levelling up bar some marginal seats which they all lost last month anyway. It’s not a fucking accident that these riots - bar the central London ones - have happened in Brexit dominated areas. They wanted immigration to stop straight away but to re-pivot an economy, a society, one with an ageing population, wasn’t a short-term job. An in/out referendum wasn’t going to help. The new government has boxed itself in - £22bn black hole but as Private Eye says, a £40bn pa black hole from Boris and Frost’s ‘deal’ which they forgot to switch the oven for. Brexit and the premise was snake oil. If you think Reform will help, have a closer look at their economic plans and the IFS’s assessment. Lunacy and far worse than Truss’s even. Guaranteed to fuck over white working communities to new levels and depths.

The fan who put that banner over the lower east saying ‘Mr Blobby In, Branfoot Out’ has finally gotten the first part of their wish, even if it has taken three decades and a new stadium

One person’s perspective. And yes, it shows a significant minority of people can switch ideologies quickly based on exposure to cultural issues. The 2019 election showed that the TU movement of the 1970s and 80s was culturally conservative. James Callaghan was. But the crowds are chanting for Robinson, and it ain’t Derek. Tommy is as far right as Griffin and Tyndall were. People are fed up with lack of access to GPs, key services, lack of pay rises, cost of items every day. 99% of this site will be. But the overwhelming majority aren’t smashing up town centres, community facilities, looting shops, and ignoring the pleas of the Southport victims’ families in response based on deliberate racist misinformation. It’s not much different to the riots around the country of the early 00s where a paediatrician’s got vandalised in Paulsgrove as part of tabloid hysteria about a nonce around every corner after the Soham, Whiting and other cases. Red Army - used up my 3 posts - so responding here. If the ANL were looting and rioting, they’d be called lefties. And understandably so. When it happens during G20 summits, it’s unwashed anarchists. The rioters are being described as far right amongst all mainstream media outlets all around the globe https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/01/uk/southport-attack-disinformation-far-right-riots-intl-gbr/index.html The police forces are describing known ‘faces’ popping up who the football intelligence officers track where they are on England travel club bans and domestic match bans. As for Reeves comments in 2016, she’s on the pulse then. But it’s about a sensible debate about what immigration we need, where domestic skills can improved to reduce need for lower skilled migration and the flow of illegal immigration we don’t want or need. But having an obsession with numbers doesn’t help and Reform’s net zero is bonkers with an ageing population. Duck - immigration, especially illegal immigration, needs dealing with urgently. And we know a key driver behind the referendum result was concern about immigration. But these riots are do with misinformation by far right sources because a UK citizen is black and extremists really want it to be a Muslim to prove a point. Public disorder also tends to ferment after crimes against younger kids, understandable in some ways because they’re innocent and it hits us all hard. I hate what’s happened and the lad should never see freedom again. The priority ought to be supporting the families of the Southport victims not the far right hijacking it against the families express wishes.

When the victims’ parents have begged the EDL/BNP to stop the violence, looting and damage to other citizens property and community assets, for the far right to continue last night what, 200 miles away, is astonishingly callous and ignorant. And yes, they are the far right doing it. If it was the Anti Nazi League, BLM or Momentum doing it, it would be just as appalling. But it isn’t, despite the pathetic whataboutery. Torching a CAB in one of the most deprived parts of the country - that’s really helping white, and all types of working class people isn’t it lads?

He comes from Bursledon and seemingly has been controversial there too according to articles online (Echo). I wish it was a bit closer to that end of the M27 as he’d be ideal for Pompey Online, it’s full of posters with his views on this and the other idiot thread he started. Maybe now they’re in the Championship he might switch allegiances as he hardly ever posts seemingly on the actual SFC related part of this site anymore? Just to educate him, autism even at the severe end of spectrum is no mitigation whatsoever for the crimes charged with and he deserves to rot in hell, but it does explain why the parents and siblings had some problems managing him. It’s very rare but there are other cases by perps who aren’t black people born in the UK. Neurodiverse UK citizens come in nice, ordinary, horrible and evil, just like every other segment of the population https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/35086/tw-autistic-teenagers-found-guilty-of-heinous-crime They are also more likely than the average to be victims of violent crime due to lack of social awareness https://news.sky.com/story/oliver-stephens-murder-two-teens-sentenced-for-luring-autistic-boy-to-park-and-murdering-him-12416456 He’s got previous form, go back and see some of his posts on Grenfell at the time and the Brexit thread which showed violent intent to other posters with different views Badger mentions. Doesn’t care much for the facts does John, but in his head would love to be out there with the EDL boys, but the body was never up to it. Look at this, far right morons and ex-football firms/England travel club on banning orders smashing up a cop shop (law and order) and torching a CAB. In the most deprived part of the country where the citizens need it the most. Edit - just seen his post where he says there’s no evidence the rioters are far right - they’re chanting for Tommy Robinson in all of the reports you dense skate prick. But then he probably doesn’t need the MSM, probably in the MLT camp of batshit crazy conspiracy theories https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0jqjxe8d1yt Because the thick cunts see the first lie online posted by Robinson and Farage, and smash up their country. But then Bannon loves Robinson, GM loves Trump and both Trump and Robinson are convicted, racist felons. Never mind that the actual parents of the victims, grieving for a loss we can barely understand it’s so dreadful, have asked for this nonsense to stop and that’s it’s making the pain x10 worse. Yes CB Fry, he is indeed a cunt, and to add a very lonely, and an attention seeking one. Well he’s getting what he wanted but not liking what he’s seeing. It isn’t racist to want to debate immigration at all, but it is to do so on the basis of stirring up hate on blatant misinformation.

He’s not the type of target forward we need either, and have done since Pelle. We’ve got AA and BBD now coming in from wider areas, but lacking that focal point, and Che wasn’t really it either, he’s a second striker in a two up, although we were worse when he didn’t play. Broja is still living off that loan spell with a serious injury inbetween. Let someone else help Chelsea with their FFP issues. Ramsdale is obvious though, unless Arsenal want a £10m loan fee or something absurd.

He’s 18 next week, hence why the judge allowed the reporting restrictions on his name to be lifted exceptionally. Not that it excuses the appalling things he has seemingly done, he won’t see outside of Broadmoor or Rampton again after the trial, but some of the comments on here (not yours) about his parents and siblings are ignoring what a very profoundly autistic teenager can be like. ASD is very different according to the level and it’s huge between high functioning, higher functioning and the severe end, then you add in potentially other conditions.

I hope you didn’t see his display v Oxford tonight. Made the Montpellier game look like Gordon Banks. Astonishing they gave him a new contract and seem determined to restore Gavin ‘’Vanarama’ Bazanu in Alex’s place as soon he’s off crutches. The outfield recruitment on paper has been sensible, shrewd even but when it comes to keepers, the club reverts to the decision-making coherency of a drunken tramp. It’s been the same ever since Les gave Fraser that enormous contract extension.

Trump isn’t racist, honest folks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cd16dgz57p9o More detailed story behind his appearance at the Convention here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c06k07dn1zjo Some of the shit other GOP figures - Tim Burchett for example - spout is reminiscent of what the EDL post online, and about as accurate. No wonder Bannon praised Tommy Robinson, very similar politically to the present day GOP

They’ve had Ejaria, an ex Liverpool winger who was with Reading until Xmas (paid £3.5m when they had £) and Marley Watkins training with them. Ejaria played in their last couple of games. Their fans aren’t sure if it’s Ejaria or not https://yellowsforum.co.uk/threads/pre-season-friendly-v-southampton-31-07-2024.10896/page-3 Praise for our fans turnout if not the line up. EDIT - their trialist featuring is apparently Ruben Providence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Providence Great name! Their poster QR mentions being at the Dell for 1-1 draw in the 80s, Aldridge scoring (it was close range). Midweek game, Mark Wright got ours IIRC. Not a great game

Yes, as much I’d love Kyle to stay, the club doesn’t want another senior player on a free next summer. I suspect he is waiting on Spurs.

Er, no. What he seemingly meant, and he’s partially clarified this himself, is that he can take forward further hardline restrictions on reproductive rights extending the rollback on Roe Vs Wade which appeal to the most hardcore evangelicals, well to the right of the Patrick Buchanan era, some of whom have a regular history of not voting. He’s saying ‘lend me your vote this once, I realise you don’t often vote for anyone, and I’ll push through policies you live but which even large parts of the GOP don’t like, because I’m Donald Trump. No-one else could. You won’t need to vote for my redneck simpleton of a running mate for those policies in 2028. And if I get the opportunity, I’ll make further nominations to the Supreme Court which means it takes ages to undo.’ Given Harris’s latest polling figures showing an continuing uptick with Democrat core and swing voters, I’m not surprised he’s trying to court some off the grid members of his coalition, given he’s done very well indeed in 2016 and 20 with evangelicals overall.

I thought this was a wind up by the Indie initially but is now running with nearly every outlet so must be true https://news.sky.com/story/tory-leadership-candidates-may-want-to-think-twice-about-trashing-rivals-they-could-get-a-yellow-card-13186937

Still a lot of evidence and missing context in the Manchester Airport incident - what happened on the flight, what sparked it all long before the police were in the picture? What happened on disembarking? The lad and his family hasn’t helped their cause by hiring Akhmed Yakoob - the so-called Tik Tok lawyer and failed Parliamentary candidate for Birmingham Ladywood https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxrr3nz63x9o You can see above a small sample of what calibre of person he is. Labour won’t be out to do him any favours after a campaign full of threats and intimidation. Especially after a dreadful, and threatening campaign in Ladywood https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo He’s also under investigation himself and could be struck off https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/solicitors-regulator-launches-investigation-akhmed-29146238 His inflammatory language has brought more extremists such as Lee Anderson into play https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/who-akhmed-yakoob-controversial-tiktok-33331487 PS - great news if Tommy Robinson has been arrested, another extremist who looks for situations to ferment violence and division.

It’s the last sentence that is the clincher for me having seen the latest video. And fair play to whoever released that video. As a member of the public, I can totally understand why the copper did what he did. But as a former enforcement officer long ago (not police but related), your training tells you 1) get anyone out of the situation who doesn’t need to be there or may get hurt and 2)restrain and incapacitate the violent or very aggressive parties. I wasn’t a robot, not were my colleagues, and it is very difficult faced with that level of violence especially against female colleagues. But the lad in light blue is already restrained. As for the lads involved and their lawyer, the latter needs to be told bluntly that any attempt to leverage compensation is falling on deaf ears and will receive radio silence. Rather than purely bang them up at our expense in overflowing prisons, although I agree that assaulting a copper has to involve some of that as well, I’d do within the sentencing guidelines what they least want. If that happened at a football ground, you’d be looking at a very lengthy ban. I don’t see why passports shouldn’t be taken away and a multi-year travel ban imposed, plus large four figure fines, more if guidelines allow to make the next few years very austere post-sentence so they consider their actions and are contributing towards the costs from their behaviour. When they can’t visit relatives overseas, it’ll hurt. If the airport owners back that up around the country with a long ban from their premises, that would send a clear deterrent.

I agree. I don’t think it’s a totalitarian thing per se, but given the very hardline and extreme Project 2025 by Heritage Foundation which he and the GOP campaign are frantically trying to distance themselves from, it wasn’t a particularly smart speech because lots of the GOP grassroots love Project 2025. The evangelical fruit loops were going to vote for him anyway but after the Daniels convictions he’s trying to cement them just in case. Badger makes a good point above - a lot of the GOP positions on women’s and reproductive rights for example are very unpopular without him fronting them, and they will probably still cost them anyway in November with swing voters and mobilise the Democrat core. But the evangelicals love Roe Vs Wade repealed, restricting access to IVF. To most western countries, it’s as backwards as the Taliban but what he’s clumsily saying is ‘only I can turn the clock back for you socially, the chance won’t come around again in a future election but if I do it, it’s going to take decades to repeal’.

If Trump’s selection was based around making him seem less crazy by comparison to Vance’s loony offerings, then I can see why he did. However Trump is a psychopath, so being to the right of him doesn’t help with the undecideds. The latest Vance idiocy unearthed helps the Democrat core vote get motivated to vote - good, good. And if couples can’t conceive naturally, the GOP and the extremists they’ve appointed to the Supreme Court and state circuits have made IVF almost impossible to access. The GOP have made their bed with Trump and Vance, and they have to lie in it, soiled by stupidity as it is.

If that’s the case then I’ve little sympathy for the club around FFP restrictions or lack of cash. What £10m + whatever we paid Sunderland in a bonus (£2m?) for promotion for an essentially League One player in the last year his contract who hadn’t played for several months. To actually be an even worse striker purchase than Carrillo or Onachu - that takes serious quantities of alcohol consumption to think it was a good bit of business. He’s 28 as well or coming up to. Fair play in a way to him and his agent for earning all that money for doing nothing and lying on the physio couch/on the sofa whilst his team-mates flogged themselves through 50 games to get him a big pay rise. Happy to eat my words if he actually ever starts a game next season or plays more than 45 minutes in the Saints first team. Seems very unlikely he will.

12 months rolling I thought. Edit - 2 years, and not signing another. No way they will get over £15m. Saints got their shorts pulled down over Stewart, this would be equally daft. Anything over £15m and move on to better, quicker targets. Good player but we just paid £18m for Downes in a more critical position, longer contract with West Ham and PL experience recently.

I’d still regard him as more component than that large, equally senile orange child psychopath. Look at his words about Harris being ‘dumb as a rock’ being turned humiliatingly against him by his own sub-key stage 7 idiocy https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trumps-4-word-attack-on-kamala-harris-gets-turned-back-at-him_uk_669f4c3ee4b03375f56f0c62 Are you seriously suggesting Trump would be fit to take on the job again? Even his own VP candidate has called him America’s Hitler. Add in the above bloopers, and his leading of a violent attempted overthrow of a correctly won election on 6 January, and anyone who thinks Trump is the full shilling needs help themselves. Harris is the go-to option now, the world needs to get behind her and especially the Democrat Party and its core vote. If it gets that out plus enough of the waverers, stability can continue and Putin can be tackled. He’d love another Trump win.