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Fucking daft motion, that’ll see them sink further. Shame, as always been keen on environmental issues where the main parties swing ignore or aren’t consistent with them, and voted Green a few times in local elections, but taking Momentum and Corbyn’s detritus on board will sink them.

🎵 Adam Johnson, he’s one of your own 🎵 Guaranteed to cause outrage on BBC Radio Tees.

Prison governor has quit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8zxl62yzxzxo Probably caused the victim’s loved ones more pain than anything since the original offence.

In a nutshell, we agree on the facts, Islamic terror still more than right/left combined.

The Tesco in Parcfforestfach, Swansea is simply enormous.

Three of them arrested last week did, from Iran in the early 2020s. There’s never a guarantee - we have home grown loons such as David Copeland or the guy charged with Ann Widdecombe - but I’m more comfortable with people who can be verified via due diligence. So no, I don’t support a blanket ban on all Muslim entries into the UK.

Depends on who it is. Undocumented people via the back of trucks and boats - no. Clearly. No-one bar a few nutters in the Greens and Corbyn’s stump wants that. If it’s a cancer scientist or engineer from Gaza carrying on their career, publishing, training our apprentices and PhD students then taking that professional development to help rebuild Gaza and due diligence can be feasibly done by say British Council then case by case for me. Ditto verifiable Afghans who fought alongside allied troops and who have a death sentence over their heads by the Taliban.

Corrected to align with the actual home office and police data.

Correct.

I meant Howe, I might have thought that’s who @Fabrice29 meant.

Spurs written all over it when De Zerbi strops off.

No, they aren’t. They really aren’t. In addition to the cases @badgerx16 posted: https://www.birminghamdispatch.co.uk/raise-the-colours-founder-charged-with-murder/ https://www.facebook.com/LTVBirmingham/videos/police-are-investigating-after-a-man-suffered-a-broken-leg-during-confrontations/2541157639646489/ https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-raise-colours-thug-hits-33955049 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/news/extreme-right-wing-group-sentenced-to-29-years-for-planning-terrorist-attack-in-west-yorkshire/ I think this is the case Badger cited https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o All UK and all in the last 2 years. The far left one in that time is the accused in the Widecombe case and in Feb 2024 a group of anarchists were arrested for bomb plots albeit they weren’t left/right intention and more anti-capitalist.

@LeG

Some actual figures - there you go Ossie, from 2025 https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-political-violence-united-states-what-data-tells-us Despite a small rise in far left wing incidents which are high profile because of their scarcity eg Kirk, from 2015-24, far left accounted for 13 killings (still 13 too many) compared to 112 for far right and 82 for Jihadists (see table 1).

Agreed. One murder of this type, whatever the suspect’s mental health, ideology and whatever crap radicalised him online, is one too many. The far right has been far more lethal than the extreme left typically - killed 77 in a mass murder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik - Jo Cox, David Copeland, attempted murder in Stirchley by Raise the Colours. 168 in Oklahoma by the bombing in 1995. In fact, 76% of extremist-related murders 2015-24 in America were committed by far right/white supremacists (Congress, Anti-Defamation League). Islamic extremism is still a much bigger threat than both extreme left and right, although those categories have grown disturbingly, as these latest arrests show https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx29nke55kno