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I agree with the social media posts there. When I met her, she reminded me of family members I have - different views but a good heart behind it all which you never get with most politicians, or people these days. The ghouls celebrating her death are vile, full stop.

I’ve met her, so my post will naturally be a bit more relevant to topic. As I’ve posted before, I liked her when I met her, and some views I’d have had in common with her like animal rights (she was very anti fox hunting for example). Some of her views I agreed with on law and order as well (I’m more to the right on that than the average because of my background) but others I disagreed. The views on LGBT, even as a happily married hetrosexual man were beyond reasonable debate though and even Farage admitted that.

If people want to go down the whataboutery route, then Hitler and the Holocaust is politics, so is Stalin and the purges. Pol Pot etc. The line has to be drawn somewhere. I met Ann and liked her, but this view as one example was going to draw conflict. She was entitled to say it but it’s not part of normal or acceptable political discourse. Not in Europe, in America at the moment with the MAGA fanatics it would be. Neither does it excuse the appalling act of violence which killed her https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48491731

Good post. The views about ethics and morals went way beyond political ideologies but she never deserved what happened to her, no way.

Thing is, and not aimed at you, it’s not an either/or with far right white terrorism, Islamic terrorism and Iran-sponsored terrorism, anti-Semitic terrorism, Russian paying UK criminals to murder/firebomb, people smuggling and lone wolf nutters with a grievance. They all need attention, intelligence, tracking and resources to stop them in their tracks where we can like this one by the 18 far right loons and thwarted Islamic attacks https://cst.org.uk/research/terrorism-hate-crime-databases/uk-foiled-terror-plots Does my head in when someone on here argues that one group is less of a danger than another.

We need Dobbin into the mods with the amount of puns we use on here.

WBA is the rumour I heard. Devine was PNE’s statement signing by their own admission, can’t see them stumping up another £5m+ for Archer. And Cameron’s originally from Brum. Baggies aren’t that keen on Villa but they loathe Wolves and if he scores against them his Villa background will soon be overlooked.

Most sensible post of today, especially the last sentence. That’s Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dem’s and Reform had politicians murdered/staff murdered/life changing injuries. And no Richard Tice, this tragic case shouldn’t be politicised, and The Times do not owe your leader an apology for exposing the fact of him taking a £5m bung and help/funding from convicted money launderers. In the same way that it’s not Ann Widdecombe’s fault that she didn’t install electric gates as advised to because we all have a right not to be brutally murdered in our own homes by lunatics.

Agreed. Archer off it would seem then as rumoured.

Ure making an interesting link there. Let’s see if the interest is Sirius or not.

Leicester love an ex-Saints player, Ings gone there too. Smallbone linked but also linked to Millwall where he was on loan before a serious hamstring injury and WBA so you think he’d go to one of those unless there’s some serious beard-whispering.

Whole saga is as bizarre as it is tragic. Arrested suspect appears to be living on his own in an ex-council house in Rotherham after the mother and two other grown up sons relocated to Devon. It’s a huge county so may or may not be relevant.

Very good point, wasn’t it indicated on here that Archer was looking to move on?

Certainly not the bloke jailed for stabbing him in the legs.

Says here either flank or shadow striker but don’t know how accurate this site is https://onefootball.com/de/news/southampton-eye-lewis-dobbin-as-tonda-eckert-seeks-another-leo-scienza-style-spark-43125012