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Can’t be that desperate for cash although depends what the £24m was made up of eg £5m Fulham reaching the ECL.
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The Burnham Years - Can the new(ish) broom sweep clean?
Gloucester Saint replied to iansums's topic in The Lounge
The type of higher income white collar criminals will be repaying a fair bit more than that 😀 The cautionary tale which I think you’re alluding to is the Magistrates Courts trying to impose unit fines in the 1990s. It was applied too bluntly, some family companies would switch the ownership and shareholdings around resulting in the desultory type of fine you cite. The principle though of white collar criminals actually working to recompense and not eating up resources inside in the prisons system where sexual and very violent offenders are the incarceration priority, taking more of the burden is a good one but would need a clear process and criteria for sentencing to it. It’d also enable the offenders to rehabilitate their reputations whilst not splitting families but on the proviso that the nicer things in life come along once you’ve finished paying back. -
The Burnham Years - Can the new(ish) broom sweep clean?
Gloucester Saint replied to iansums's topic in The Lounge
This, and paying much higher fines to get some direct recompense to those they’ve ripped off. Freeze their assets long-term bar the everyday transactions eg food, basic transport and schooling their family. Keep them working, and 20 years of repaying their fraudulent gains plus 5% interest would be a huge deterrent to carrying on the path of fraud with a suspended sentence hanging over them. You keep your family together, but you’ll live a basic life because most of their income goes to the victims until they’ve been fully repaid. -
@Crab Lungs I didn’t agree with Sue’s post and said it wasn’t the best (if you bothered to read the thread). Calling it out would have been quite fair. But that doesn’t excuse slagging half off the board off with crass generalisations with no reality which you went for. Considering they’re supposed to support the same football club as you FFS. I don’t wish Trump dead but he’s a racist bastard who has killed people in his own country via the needless ICE raids and plenty overseas through needless wars pulled through the nose by Mad Ben and his son in law. Also, some of those coppers hurt in the 6 Jan insurrection have never worked again with their injuries caused by his thugs. He’s fucked the world economy and his own with needless tariffs and generated hatred with his attitudes towards Canada, Mexico, Denmark and kissed Putin’s arse. He will get his comeuppance in the Mid Terms. I won’t celebrate his death but I’ll celebrate his political demise. Anyway, I’m sick of this exchange. We don’t need to converse again about anything, including Saints.
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In line with what I’d heard although relatively low fee reflective of the wages Archer is on. Club clearly decided it’s better to dump those with the introduction of SCR.
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@Crab Lungs this is my final comment on the matter but there’s loads of people who I sometimes have different political views to, all of whom I get on well with and I have a high regard for. They know who they are. Whilst I agree regularly with Egg, Whelk, Farmer etc, I’ve also disagreed with them on some issues, occasionally sharply. Again, no offence ever taken. Here’s the key difference, and I can’t explain it in any simpler terms than this. They don’t get personal, they aren’t abusive. Take a look back at your previous two posts and tell us honestly if those aren’t abusive and purely there to wind up people. There’s a couple of former posters banned on here who went down that road and another who I completely ignore because he’s purely a WUM. I gave you a bit back and Whelk told you to grow up. Good advice. It was a cuntish tone on your posts intended to provoke and it did. Therefore it was called out. You’re on ignore so no need to respond. Debate like an adult as many so on here with different views and that can change.
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I have to deal with it at work. But that doesn’t mean I ever have to like it.
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Courts will kick it out at state level, SC hasn’t been as compliant as he’d hoped either. If they don’t go ahead, it’ll break up as a country starting with California and NE Seaboard.
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Just read about that, what an absolute bellend. Sit down protest. Just let the clubs get on with it and if Fiorentina make them an acceptable offer I’m sure he can go. Three PL goals last season sunshine in 20th place. Might want to reflect on his ‘contribution’. Mind you, Wolves have had Mario Lemina stain their armband and there are few bigger wasters in football than not so super Mario.
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Your middle paragraph gets to the core issue - Trump and Vance expended both political capital and taxpayer dollars bringing him to the US. Very strange hill for them for to die on when they’re already in huge trouble ahead of the mid-terms because of the war and chewing Mad Ben’s winnets. If the Democrats were any good (they’re not) it’d be a foregone conclusion already.
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We’ll see what the wicket’s like when they bat on it but not an inspiring start. Smith got a peach from Cook but he’s also shit. Stubbs carrying on his brilliant contribution from Finals Day. At least Thomas Rew and David Miller can bat (even if Miller is almost old enough to be Rew’s dad).
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Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
Gloucester Saint replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
Ann Widdecombe nearly got into the final of Strictly despite barely being able to dance. You don’t do that unless you have a pretty strong cross-party, and non-political following. There must have been people voting for her who had never engaged with politics. We did in the early rounds because it was fun to watch. So this idea of a torrent of people gloating at her horrific murder is bollocks. Everyone I know is horrified of all stripes. Her politics are different but I liked her when I met her, a lot. Someone at work who met her a few times got on so well that they sent each other Christmas cards every year and their politics couldn’t be more different. If people want to find ghouls and plumb the gutter of social media, they’ll find them. But let’s not pretend it’s typical in any way of one ideology or another. That’s victim mentality. Horrific humans - that’s the common thread. -
Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
Gloucester Saint replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
How many people actually was that though? A few braindead wasters singing Ding Dong the Witch is Dead which got on the radio. Specifically LBC. Probably no more than the Man City fans celebrating Bobby Charlton’s passing. Or people at Liv-Man U singing about Harold Shipman or Hillsborough. Proving beyond doubt that there are cunts on the right, cunts on the left and cunts at football grounds who don’t vote or have any idea about politics. Cunts on X or Facebook who wish cancer sufferers trying to fundraise for research to die (one of my friends received a string of these). There are a small number of cunts and trolls everywhere. Anyway, I’ve turned into @whelk and I can’t be stealing his mantle for efficient and effective use of the c-word. -
Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES
Gloucester Saint replied to sadoldgit's topic in The Lounge
I can’t control what others think but I certainly wouldn’t be celebrating and I don’t think when it came to it that all bar a small minority of ghouls who I’d rather not share oxygen with. Farage has got a partner and kids, Jo Cox had a partner and kids. Hope the twat who made remarks online recently about Farage being shot gets prosecuted for hate. And let’s not even go there on all of the various vile and hateful posts by Reform local candidates. -
Either GM has hacked @Crab Lungs account or he’s become almost as a big a cunt, because his last two posts have been woeful. Used to be a well-respected poster on SWF for many years but seems to be radicalised. Just unnecessary towards fellow Saints fans. Even the toy salesman on the Pompey Takeover Thread had better manners. I’m going the best thing you can do with WUMs, and that’s putting him on ignore. As for people having sub-IQs, hilarious, given most if not all of the people he’s taking a pop are professionals/graduates/expert trades. I’d love to see this plank’s professional and educational attainment by comparison. Learned all he ‘knows’ on Raise the Colours.com from Tommy and hates the MSM.
