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Skates getting dry humped. Although their squad doesn't look that fishy on paper.

Its bloody fantastic. It's happened again eh. 120m spent, they're turning on Paddy Mckenny, and they look even worse than us (double our points though).

It'll be Corberean, Eustace or Carrick. All equally less qualified in the prem than RM. But probably more tactically flexible. I wouldn't mind Carrick - but just seen Wet Spam are in for him.

If he's gone and we have no replacement ready it's a complete f up. Lallana isn't a manager and doesnt have a team of coaching staff. This needs careful planning, handling and timing this time, not like Ralph / Jones / Selles.

Same bloody story. Better team, waste chances, gift the opposition a goal. Becoming unbelievable.

This.

Did anyone really expect anything different tonight? Made even worse by an absolutely idiotic "leader" throwing his team mates under the bus. Martin can't really legislate for that, nor injuries and suspensions, nor the previous crap recruitment. Wood, Aribo, KWP, Archer, Fernandes, Manning all did reasonably well, but 10 men vs Chelsea in their current form is a big old ask. That said, the prosecution is that you have to adapt, and playing a way which risks gifting 3 or 4 goals to world class teams each week is never going to work. And more damming is the judgement of character to deem Stephens the model pro leader, especially after he did the same thing vs United. JS has a lot of apologising to do. Lots to ponder, even though the result is little surprise. My worry is that sacking Martin isn't going to keep us up, therfore what will it really achieve in the medium term, given the big re set which will come in the summer anyway, because let's face it. We ain't staying up, even though our best eleven are really not a million miles off it, without the suicide football.

He's let us down massively. Learn from the United game ffs.

--------------------------------Lumley KWP-------ABK/Edwards-------Stephens-------Taylor---------Manning -------------------Aribo---------------Fernandes Arma---------------------Paul-----------Archer Use Sulemana and Samo Amo if poss. No Ramdsale, Macca, THB, Bednarek, Lesley, Downes, Dibling, Lallana, Stewart, Smallbone.

Reminiscent of Crouch and Camara

Makes reasonable sense. Fraser can actually cross the ball for TP.

Unless it's like a three with walker Peters, Stephens and THB, then Dibling and fraser wing backs.

I'd take Latte Lath, and give BBD on loan as part of the deal.

Apparently we had agreed a fee for him which was £20m and he chose a higher salary at Ipswich. £20m for a bang average championship striker seemed worse business than £10m for someone who got goals in SHU team last season. But it isnt panning out that way at the moment unfortunately for us!! To be fair to BBD, he has been asked to hug the left touch line for most of his minutes.

Yep maybe - Jo Tessem summed it up well by saying you cant pass and break down teams into submission in this league easily. We do have the players to be more direct and quick - got a massive (inflated) squad really. We could set up just like Ipswich or Bournemouth do. I dont buy that we only have players who can play the RM way for one moment.

its really easy to point to VAR, but I think in this case you have to cut RM some slack. He lost Downes (Arguably most important player) last minute, yes its rubbish to gift a goal early, but then we score a perfectly good goal to get to 1-1, and from there you would probably have backed us to get our third straight win. Then they're given a bit VAR let-off, and score a worldy to get a 2 goal cushion at home, by which time the game sort of felt gone really. It is totally all "ifs buts and maybes", but we are not far off, its small margins, and I know other teams can say the same, and we rode our luck vs Everton, etc. A freak equaliser by Ipswich - 2 points lost vs a relegation rival. Screwed by VAR again vs Leicester - 2 points lost vs a relegation rival. Turn these three games around and we are sitting out of the bottom three. It feels bad, and the table doesnt lie, but we are not a million miles off. I do wish we hadnt wasted the money on BBD, and the loan space on Cornet though.

Taylor. But we like to be clever and play a 58 year old winger there when we need to shut up shop.

Joel Piroe is utter, complete garbage. Although a toss up between him and Stewart as Russ' striker not sure who the worst investment would have been. Stewart at least looks a player when fit. Piroe looks like a poor Rugby Union player.

anyone know what sort of injury it looks like?

Felt somewhat ironic reading this: Live Text Postat 25 minutes 25' Delay in match because of an injury Ross Stewart (Southampton).

Dont think its really fair to criticise Dragan. He has spent as much as he can do within PSR and retained a huge squad. The problem is crap recruitment of managers and players.

433 Ramsdale KWP (toss up with Suga) THB Janny B Taylor Lallana (Les off bench) Downes Fernandes Dibling (Arma off bench) Tall Paul / Drogba / BBD / Pelle / SRL Archer (Fraser off bench)

Les certainly didn't have the best night. At fault for 2 goals I think. However, he has been pretty strong in other matches. Against Everton in the cup for example. But maybe age and experience and playing a different formation with different players every 5mins might mean he might not get there every week just yet.

I was hopeful we had seen enough that things might click, as he had not really been 2md best except Brentford. The recruitment has been great I think, except for the striker department. We bought BBD and Archer when we needed a strong physical 9. (Tall Paul or Che style). I believe there is enough quality everywhere else if we get it working. The first half last night though was the nail in the coffin. Ridiculous experimental team selection. What did Cornet do to deserve a start. Why move Dibling out of his successful position and partnership. It's like he doesn't know what our best team is or trust an 11 to gel. He doesn't know what our best team is. He is a great man manager and has improved Aribo tonnes for example. But if we are all honest we made hard work of last season with a very strong squad albeit it was a freak year. We could have so easily missed out after having it in our hands eventually at one point. What worries me though is who we might bring in. We won't do a Hughes style appointment because we try to be clever. Eustace is a Championship manager, like him, but we need to invest in someone proven. Rohl likewise. Appointments for last year but not now. Where do other clubs get managers like Iriola, the Brighton guy who come to the prem and hit the ground running? When we try that we get Pellegrino! I can't stand Moyes but he could be the solid option with prem experience we need to pick up some points. Rob Edwards? Potter might not be out of reach and don't think he'd get the United job. Can't see any proven prem names beyond those three...or Ralph. Edwards was the man Ipswich wanted when mckenna was off to Brighton.

Optimistic about this one! Can see us getting off the mark. Do feel they are very average and havent started great this season.