SaintsBarry74

They're never going down, at least not in our lifetime. Slap them with another points deduction and they'll just start winning every game from here on out. Everton will outlive even mankind, same as cockroaches will.

Leicester looks like they're going down with us. Ipswich looks really shit, but the difference is that they've been able to grind out results. They'll still go down I reckon.

Should have him play in midfield. He’s clearly not a goalkeeper and I don’t think it’s too late to change his position.

He's more of an outfielder than a goalkeeper imo.

It’s fucking sad

Is it me or do we have a bad record of shipping an awful lot of goals? Even before RM.

Worse than the 0-9s? Calm down.

I've not been happy with our possession lately.

We're so much more enjoyable to watch now.

Well, yes... 5 points after 16 games isn't exactly very impressive, is it? It would've been concerning if he claimed we were meeting expectations.

That would deffo top our 0-9's.

We should take a punt on a foreign coach imo. What do we got to lose?

Looks like Russball to me. Will take time.

Lets batter these scousers!

Make fun all you want, but that banner did the trick! These lads are heroes now.

I wonder what happened?

Playing in the Premier League brings in £100m in TV money and who knows how much more in indirect revenue. Surely they'd want to priotise keeping this up.

They let in 3 goals after subbing Danny Ward in who's probably the 2nd worst shot-stopper the premier league has ever seen (worst is Baz).

This comment is spot on. We've seen many delusional managers trying to copy Pep Guardiola's tiki taka football because of his vast success, but without his tactical genius and experience, it's been an absolute tippy-tappy disaster for most sides. Vincent Kompany is a perfect example, another one is Brendan Rodgers' pathetic attempts at playing out from the back with Celtic in the Champions League - they got absolutely battered until he changed it up, Celtic's Champions League record under Rodgers' tenures was shocking. The difference is that unlike Kompany and Rodgers, Russell Martin hasn't achieved sod all in his career. It's like the muppet asked ChatGPT to write his tactics and now he's stubbornly stuck with them, hoping that one day all this meaningless stats-padding will lead to him pulling off a Kompany-style move to a bigger club.

I think RM has been found out. The media initially didn't pay much attention to us as we're not part of the big six, so not as many clicks to be made on Saints coverage. But I've noticed in the last month or so that the commentators, pundits and various media outlets, not to mention opposition fans, have all started to point out the flaws in our one-dimensional system. The best comparison I read the other day was: 'Russell Martin is either very stubborn or very naive, or perhaps both, in persisting with a system that clearly isn't working. It's like insisting on driving a car with square-shaped wheels made of concrete.'

Premier League Win Percentages: Lampard 41% Gerrard 32.5% Cooper 18% Steve Cooper is very unlike Martin in the sense that he employs no tactics, there's no patterns of play and it's generally all just a mess. Would still be an improvement on RM, but surely we can do better by just taking a punt on a foreign coach?

"Southampton may have got away with such poor possessional play at the back in the Championship, but the Premier League is more unforgiving. They rank top of the division for the most errors leading to shots and the most errors leading to goals." "In the recent fixture against Wolves, the Saints had 71% of the play, but the majority of their passes that match were made between the centre backs, Bednarek and Harwood-Bellis." "It is admirable to impose such a possession-based system at the top level for a newly promoted side, but it comes with a sense of naivety. Martin must learn the art of adapting if Southampton are to survive." Laughing stock of the league, Martin is a fucking idiot.

Enzo Maresca also prefers to play out from the back, but unlike Martin, he actually knows how to adapt and mix things up depending on the opponent. When Leicester faced us last season, they scored five goals with a low possession in the mid-30s, punishing our tippy-tappy football with quick transitions. I can't recall seeing a manager as delusional as Martin, who stubbornly sticks to this one-dimensional style of play no matter the opponent or how the game unfolds.

Same here. Leicester fans were saying that he plays without any set system or tactics, the players didn't know what to do.