Farmer Saint

Meh, it's such a nothing way of cheating. A manager telling players to try to get others sent off has more material advantage from cheating. Stop being such a pussy.

Best of luck Whitey - I know a few people who have been through that (and my Dad had the op) and they've all come out the back of it stronger 💪

Sounds like my Friday night.

Not last night she didn't.

Nope

Bloody hell, that's a stretch. I would argue implied terms on the playoffs, but let's see.

Yeah, I'm unsure. I'd go but I think I'd struggle to sing and create an atmosphere. It's a bit of a weird one. Maybe I'll just need to get pissed.

Said this would happen if they went this route - hence why I thought they wouldn't be stupid enough to do it. I was wrong on that part.

But you said the following - That statement… Jesus. We are absolutely cooked What's the above got to do with the statement?

What would you have said?

Quoting for my pint.

But did we knowingly break the rules, it seems maybe we didn't - through complete ignorance - but maybe not knowingly broke them.

I disagree, if B is true, then A surely follows. This doesn't affect as much as having a player sent off in a game unfairly, or a penalty given that shouldn't, or offside goal.

The funniest thing is, I still don't see any of this as a big deal. I just don't see the material advantage gained.

Nope, I'm with you.

Not necessarily, time is a healer and this is all still very raw.

Having watched football for a long time, and how one robust challenge in the middle of a game can change momentum, I don't think spying on a couple of teams opens our results up to scrutiny. There are only a few teams with open training grounds anyway. Arsenal don't. Fulham don't. The results weren't fake.

Which I think we did. I think we went cap in hand. It may be that Tonda/Spors didn't realise and sanctioned it, having only recently been in position in this League, Parsons didn't know about it but was aware of the rule etc. Utter incompetence from the club, but this is SR, so par for the course for the last 4 years. We then admit it all and cooperate, inform them of when we did it previously, and this is the result.

Didn't realise that - fair enough then.

It's definitely not part of the coaching badges. Coaching badges are done by the FA, and it's not illegal in all British Leagues, including the PL.

It does happen apparently.

I'm interested with the legal recourse if our appeal fails. Essentially the 14 day response being wiped out is not due legal process, and this could allow a civil suit to be lodged against the EFL.

Not sure anyone has said he won't be banned, as I said above this is all devils advocate. Hope you manage to calm yourself and have a good day 👍

Agreed.

Bullshit because you don't seem o understand it, demonstrated by your analogy that doesn't work. But anyway, let's not bury the lead, CB Fry said he did know, so it must be true.