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The education is around the reality of moving abroad and ensuring they're not conned by people traffickers. Massive investment is needed to increase living standards in these countries so that they don't want to move on. It's all driven by global inequality, so we need to solve the trigger.

Yes, but in this case they wouldn't be able to try.

What does my last point have to do with Brexit?

That's where the confirmation with their countries come in - this is what takes the time at the moment with applications, it's verifying they are who they say they are. However, the point is, and I'll repeat it, that they cannot claim asylum here, so it's irrelevant, they will never be allowed to stay, and they will stay in detention until they return. It's the deterrent that is needed.

Just because you don't accept it, it doesn't make it so. The French and Germans take in far more every year than we do.

The Reform leader started it, the Tories continued it. Amazing how the right have caused, exacerbated and prolonged the issue.

We're open to hear your ideas, but as ever you are yet to come up with anything mildly workable. This is the problem with low IQ people, they can't do logic, process and detail.

They have to give a country of origin that gets verified with their home country, but it's more that it is a deterrent as they will not be granted asylum irrespective of this.

They are workable solutions - you are yet to come up with one. If you want to stop the boats, this is the kind of thinking you have to adopt. You have to deal with the causes otherwise it will never stop.

Nope, I have solutions. 1. Reopen applications from abroad, and pass a law that anyone that comes across illegally is removed to country of origin irrespective of refugee status. 2. Rejoin the EU and take everything that comes with that, including the Euro and free movement of people if need be, and then ensure that we continue what we did before in removing using the Dublin agreement. 3. Start funding education in the countries that are the biggest issues, as well as tackling global inequality that pushed economic migrants towards Europe. Other solutions are just sticking plasters.

Badum tsccchhh...

But that was for 300 people only, and cost £600m. For 30k people that would cost £60bn.

In which case we're not gaining anything at all, just continue as we are now.

There are - not as many as the m n, but they are there - so where do they go?

How do you stop them getting out though? I cannot imagine it's be easy to hold huge amounts of fighting age men under lock and key.

But which detention centres? If we have to house 30k in detention centres how do we do that if we don't have any big enough to take them? Considering we're struggling for prison places (which is what you're asking for), why would we build for migrants but not for prisoners. And how long would they take to build? Prisons take between 3 to 5 years to build, and cost about £1bn to build for 1500 inmates. And that's not taking into account running costs. And we need twenty to thirty of these.

Do the kids and women go there as well?

Which detention centre?

Christ, if I like anymore of @hypochondriac I'm going to have to go for a scalding hot shower. Only kidding Hypo 😉

Unfortunately you're wrong, the bit I added was in brackets. If you go back and look at Osvaldorama's post directly underneath you'll see that as he posted just before I did the edit.

But it's not realistic to think they'll stop every boat without much more investment. If we withdraw all funds it's going to get much, much worse as they'll just be funnelled through by the French.

But how? What are you nuking and where? Just explain your thinking.

That's all we need, fuckwits in this country making another decision about something they don't understand.

Yes, but what's to stop France towing them or sending them back? It'll be like the fucking Chuckle Brothers as they are not either of our countries responsibilities.

But how is that a solution? I could just say "Jelly" without explaining. How is nukes a solution?