Farmer Saint

Oh well, not worth discussing then.

What's the relevance of this comment?

It won't sky rocket by any means, it will increase though.

No, that would be ridiculous. You would put a timeframe on the last time it was sold and each property would be assessed on say, a 3 year basis. You could also use planning permission and building regs sign off to estimate increase in property value (that's what they did to us once our renovations were complete - moved our bandings). Also, I get the point you're making, but how many properties in the UK do you think you can buy for £150k and then spend £1m adding to it to make a property that is worth what you've spent. I'm betting not very many.

Yes it does, that's my point, although don't forget I purchased a farm so it's difficult to split the value of the property from the value of the farm. We have also split the property from the farm now, so again it makes it more complicated. But unless you are going to get estate agents to routinely update property valuations on a yearly basis this is not going to be possible, so I would assume they'll do it on last sale price.

So, 0.48% of property value - would you be better or worse off? Me, personally, it depends on how they calculate the value. On current value, we'd be far worse off as we've invested nearly £400k in our property over the past 4 years, but if it's done based on the past purchase price in 2019, then we'll be about the same as current Council Tax charges. Feels completely fair as people with a £250k property in Blackpool pay the same as someone in a £2.5m property in Westminster.

What 3 World's are they?

I wonder if @Sir Ralph is intelligent enough to understand the deep, deep irony and hilarious ignorance displayed in the first three sentences in that post.

I don't believe anyone, even genuine Reform voters, can hand on heart sit there and say that Nigel Farage does not display all the hallmarks of a racist. Those that do probably do because they're racist and want to justify it.

But Hitler was never found guilty, so he can't be responsible, as you have said. Don't forget not all crimes are prosecuted, due to lack of evidence, unsafe procedural techniques, whether or not the CPS feels it's in the public interest at the time, statute of limitations, death etc etc. Also, people can be found innocent on technicalities even though they are clearly guilty, and others can just get away with it. Genuine guilt has nothing to do with prosecuted guilt. OJ Simpson is a good example of this, although I presume you think he's innocent (along with Jimmy Saville and a whole host of others).

Don't try this shit to get out of what you said - you need to take some time out and think about what you're saying before you post it. Taking you on your word (which is difficult considering the lies you've spun in here previously to "prove" your point), the "No" answer is not a gotcha because the question is not a genuine reflection of how the World works. That is unless you genuinely believe that people can't be guilty of things without being charged and found guilty of them. You know that is bollocks, surely?

No you don't think Hitler was responsible for the killing of 6 million Jews. That's fucking low, even for you.

Oh ok, that's fine then. I mean, you can say racist stuff and be a racist without being charged and found guilty of it, you are aware of that aren't you? As an aside, Hitler was never found guilty of killing Jews, so I presume you don't believe he was responsible for that?

And some on corruption: Nigel Farage has not been convicted of any corruption crimes, but he has repeatedly faced major political scandals, police inquiries, and formal investigations regarding transparency, undisclosed financial gifts, and election spending. While Farage frequently dismisses these accusations as "establishment hit jobs", critics and political watchdogs argue that his extensive, opaque financial arrangements contradict his "man of the people" image. The primary allegations and official investigations into his financial conduct span several key areas: 1. The Undeclared Crypto Billionaire Gift & Lobbying Allegations (2026) Farage became the subject of a major parliamentary investigation regarding a massive personal payout: The Allegation: He accepted a £5 million unconditional personal gift from Thailand-based cryptocurrency billionaire and Reform UK donor Christopher Harborne. Farage initially kept the gift secret, arguing it was intended entirely for his lifetime personal security and did not relate to his parliamentary duties. The Potential Conflict: Anti-corruption groups reported Farage to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner. They pointed out that Harborne is a major investor in the crypto firm Tether. Meanwhile, Farage heavily promoted the crypto sector and personally lobbied the Governor of the Bank of England in late 2025 regarding stablecoin regulations. 2. Failure to Disclose Benefits from a Convicted Fraudster (2026) In mid-2026, media investigations exposed a deep financial relationship between Farage and a convicted criminal: The Allegation: Farage failed to declare extensive financial support provided by George Cottrell (known as "Posh George"), a Reform associate who served prison time in the US for wire fraud and money laundering. The Details: Cottrell reportedly funded Farage’s private office staff, drivers, security, and transport, and allowed Farage to live in a luxurious five-storey townhouse near Buckingham Palace prior to his election to Parliament. Under the MPs' code of conduct, any personal benefit over £300 received in the year before election must be declared if it relates to political activity. Following these revelations, the campaign group Led By Donkeys referred Farage to Parliament's ethics watchdog. The Fallout: Facing intense pressure from these overlapping standards inquiries, Farage abruptly resigned his parliamentary seat in Clacton in July 2026 to force a special by-election, a move critics labeled a gamble to dodge parliamentary scrutiny. 3. Arron Banks Funding Scandal (2019) During his time as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Farage was accused of hiding large-scale personal funding from a major political donor: The Allegation: An investigation revealed that Farage failed to disclose £450,000 worth of lavish gifts from Leave.EU co-founder and insurance tycoon Arron Banks. The Details: The funding paid for a chauffeur-driven car, rent and bills on a £4.4 million Chelsea home, and promotional trips to the United States. The European Parliament launched an investigation into the matter, as MEPs are strictly required to declare such financial interests. 4. Electoral Malpractice & "Cash for Peerages" Accusations (2019) Farage and his parties have drawn scrutiny from law enforcement over how they handled elections: The Allegation: During the 2019 General Election, the Metropolitan Police Special Inquiry Team launched an assessment into allegations of electoral fraud. Farage claimed the Conservative Party offered peerages (seats in the House of Lords) to senior Brexit Party figures to pressure them into standing down from contesting Tory seats. While Farage framed this as Tory corruption, the entire episode triggered police complaints regarding unlawful electoral inducements. Spending Law Violations: Farage has also faced separate institutional accusations of failing to accurately report local campaign and battle bus expenses during general election runs, leading to regulatory challenges over UK election spending laws. 5. Reform UK Opaque Corporate and Banking Concerns Unlike traditional democratic political parties, Reform UK was structurally set up as a private limited company, meaning Farage and a small group of directors retain absolute financial control. High-street banks have reportedly raised money laundering concerns with the National Crime Agency (NCA) regarding untraceable funds—including a missing £1 million fundraising vehicle—circulating between Farage, his close associates, and major donors.

Should have been an illegal action. Anyway, I've stolen some AI to help you: Nigel Farage has faced widespread criticism and numerous public allegations concerning racist and antisemitic remarks from his schooldays and political career, though he has denied making direct, malicious racial abuse. [1, 2, 3] School-Days Allegations (Dulwich College) Dozens of former classmates and a teacher alleged that as a teenager at Dulwich College in the late 1970s and early 1980s, Farage voiced admiration for fascist figures like Adolf Hitler and Oswald Mosley. [1, 2] Former Jewish classmate Peter Ettedgui and others stated that Farage repeatedly taunted minority students with phrases like "Hitler was right" and "gas them," alongside singing offensive parody songs about gas chambers. [1, 2, 3] Other contemporaries alleged he used racial slurs (such as "Paki") and told minority pupils to "go back home". [1, 2] Farage's Response: Farage stated he has "never directly racially abused anybody," characterizing his teenage behavior as "playground banter" and "offensive things" said nearly 50 years ago without malice, while dismissing some specific allegations as complete fabrications. [1, 2, 3] Political Rhetoric and Campaigns The "Breaking Point" Poster: During the 2016 EU referendum, Leave.EU unveiled a immigration campaign poster featuring a queue of migrants with the caption "Breaking Point," which critics and political opponents widely condemned as xenophobic and designed to stoke racial anxiety. [1] Comments on Immigration and Integration: Farage has faced criticism for remarks warning that high immigration risks turning people into "foreigners in your own country" and claiming that certain areas of London have changed so drastically that they no longer feel English. [1, 2] Glasgow Video: He drew heavy condemnation from political rivals in late 2025 for releasing a social media video asserting that one in three schoolchildren in Glasgow not speaking English as a first language represented the "cultural smashing of Glasgow". [1]

Hmmm, nope. Party Vs personal. Try again, what is the relevance?

What's that got to do with Burnham and making preconceptions about his political stance?

What the hell is a "factional weapon"? We're not talking about parties, we're talking about Farage v Burnham. So I'll repeat: Racism, fascism, corruption, Brexit etc are all far worse, surely?

I presume you'd also call me left, but I'm a centrist. I think you're misunderstanding what counts as centrist and left nowadays.

I think Farage has shown far more worrying characteristics. Racism, fascism, corruption, Brexit etc are all far worse, surely?

I think you misunderstand what is said to wind people up and what people actual believe.

Like what policies?

Ok, so at no point you have said you don't think Burnham will be a good PM?

I can't comment on how he'd be at the actual job, but I can comment on his past political misfires and how he's ruined the country due to that. What about Burnham's career makes you think he won't be a successful PM?

Absolutely, and people will always have them, but expressing them in a public place ahead of any evidence makes people look knee-jerk, partisan and immature.