Farmer Saint

It's definitely not part of the coaching badges. Coaching badges are done by the FA, and it's not illegal in all British Leagues, including the PL.

It does happen apparently.

I'm interested with the legal recourse if our appeal fails. Essentially the 14 day response being wiped out is not due legal process, and this could allow a civil suit to be lodged against the EFL.

Not sure anyone has said he won't be banned, as I said above this is all devils advocate. Hope you manage to calm yourself and have a good day 👍

Agreed.

Bullshit because you don't seem o understand it, demonstrated by your analogy that doesn't work. But anyway, let's not bury the lead, CB Fry said he did know, so it must be true.

There are a lot of people on this forum and thread who just can't control their emotions, @CB Fry is struggling with that at the moment. Unfortunately levels of emotional maturity don't follow peoples age.

I get that you are struggling with the analogy, but what you have written above would be illegal in all countries, whereas spying is only illegal in one country, and not even in the top division.

Yes, and that is probably illegal in multiple countries, so he would have been brought up with that rule. He's also not the equivalent of a Librarian - that would be the FA in that analogy. However if it was legal to do that in every other country and he had done it in Germany, Italy etc, apart from being a massive sex pest, why would he come to the UK and think it's illegal?

Because I don't think it is, is it? See, even you don't know the rules and I assume you've been on here a loooonnnnggg time.

Alright mate, no need to lose your temper at 6am. Calm yourself or you'll ruin your day.

But they tend to react to the attacking team.

So, was he assistant manager in the year it took place? Again, why would he know. For instance, do you know it is illegal to gamble in a British library?

He was 25 and an assistant coach at U17 at Bayern Munich when Bielsa did it. Why would he follow that story?

This - I think the issue is at Parsons level (and probably Spors) rather than at a first year Manager who has engaged in this at previous clubs due to it not being against the rules.

Why's that matter, they're our set pieces, not the other teams?

I disagree.

Which is what I said in my post - the club should have told him. This is his first management role. Why would he necessarily know that in one league in the whole world this is a rule?

But why would he think it's against the rules?

Playing Devil's advocate here, if Tonda didn't know it was a rule and genuinely thought it was fine, then a ban seems massively harsh. The club should have told him it was a banned practice in the Championship. I've got a horrible feeling here that this is more a mistake than anything malicious, hence why we've admitted to it so quickly and cooperated.

It's not a defence, but it is mitigation

Why would he think it is if every other league in the world does not ban it?

There aren't many teams that have accessible training grounds though, so not sure.

There aren't many teams that have accessible training grounds though, so not sure.

Well, unless I get my train money back I'm going to buy a Boro shirt and go cause some trouble...where is Hull's training ground?