Farmer Saint

Labour were in charge in 2008...

Ok, here goes: 1. Nope, but they were elected before the £22bn black hole left by the Tories was discovered. To not raise taxes to cover that would be stupid as would leave us further in deficit. To cut on an already fucked set of public services is idiotic. 2. Taking kids out of poverty is a good thing. Giving disabled people help is a good thing. Welfare needs reform, as we've all been asking for on the left, but these policies aren't the ones to lose. 3. As we've argued many, many, many times before, to increase productivity you can't just cut jobs. You have to invest in IT and Process improvement, and it takes significant time to do that, to a point where Labour are likely not in power. It's why it's been overlooked by successive governments for 40 years. 4. Some of those taxes are irrelevant to growing the economy. However, what you also have to understand is that investment in public services grows the economy as well through supply chain and increased spending from wages. They are also relying on the BoE to reduce interest rates to increase investment. The ISA change will help to grow the UK economy by increasing investment in British listed companies. By the way, this is how we have looked over the past few years in relation to growth: 5. Why isn't there a justification for it? We have crumbling public services and infrastructure. We have kids going hungry. Tell me why it is not justified, rather than just saying it isn't.

Yep, we should be listening to a jumped up estate agent who makes up people to prove his points.

Me too - I'll give you a clue @Sir Ralph, it's not beekeeping...

Always been the same, he's never been able to stand on his own two feet and create a valid argument. He's an internet plagiarist.

Christ almighty - is some right wing meme off Facebook the best you can come up with after yesterday's budget? The wish of the people was for a Labour government because we needed to fix our public services - that's why they won a landslide election. The people knew that meant an increase in funding to public services.

We still need to see a full Reform of benefits though...

He reminds me of Danny Fox, shit in defence, but really decent going forwards

Which one? What do you genuinely think I do? I'm interested for you to profile me.

You're quoting Badenoch as the person to explain economics? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Fucking hell mate, as if you could come across as any more of a fucking goon. Tell us again that story about all your millionaire mates who have moved to Dubai to save on inheritance tax. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I thought they'd all left due to inheritance tax anyway?

Exactly, she's not even the worst chancellor in the last 3 years.

So, nothing to really see here with this budget - bit of a stabilising budget with no real shocks. I think if we see a large decrease in interest rates over the next few months that will help businesses to start re-investing and should kick start us a little bit.

Well, I did originally think that tbh. They are very similar, and both seem to make things up to suit their arguments.

You two are such good bed-fellows, you really are.

I'm not engaging with you. Keep pretending.

I finished him weeks ago, it's why he tends to stick off this thread now.

Funny that 😂 Have a good day.

Ooh, customs duty on all imports, that's interesting.

Then why did all your mates move to Dubai because of inheritance tax then? That's what you told us.

Bet you're glad that last sentence isn't being levied at you for once!

Ok, so mansion tax not as bad as I thought, but still hurts 🤕

Maybe business owners should pay themselves more through income tax then...

Tax burden up to 38%, still less than France, Germany and Italy though, and none of them have an NHS to pay for.

Didn't realise we'd changed steel procurement for ship building. Pretty much vertical integration for British Steel Suppliers - if the MOD has any money left.