Osvaldorama

Let us have our AI slop, conspiracies and memes please, we’ve got nothing to do this weekend now

I’ve flipped and flopped on this. He has been a revelation for us; and I don’t think that’s because of “cheating” I also do think his position is untenable now. BUT ultimately I think it should come down to what the players think. Do they hate him? Still trust him? Same as above, I really don’t care about what he did. It was a minor infraction, that should have been handled better by all. I’d go even further - I actually want saints to cheat and push the limits, just not to get caught. Football is an absolute mess and has been for ages, so I don’t care about the morals of any of this. I just want saints to win. I think it will be taken out of our hands though and he’ll be banned. (Although - even that will be ridiculous and OTT based on the Bielsa precendent).

I don’t believe this is true, but I would love it if we did it 😂. Everyone hates the club now already so why not press the nuclear button and watch the fireworks.

I do agree that it’s minor, but then I also think spying on Boro’s training was minor so it’s all about how you play the hand you’re dealt. We *could* have been smart and hammered them in the press for stuff like this. I doubt it would change anything, but at least the optics would shift from “Southampton FC should be thrown into the sun” to something a bit more pallatable

Playing for the club that directly benefited from the punishment is of course a huge irregularity and it obviously shouldn’t have happened. IMO.

Thank you Tonda for making your mark on the greatest era in our history™

So he’s been kicked out of the playoffs and kicked out of his own company. What a guy

Yeah I can’t believe they’ve said so little. Pretty absurd way to treat the fan base.

It’s because deep down they know they lost the game, and the spying had barely impact on that.

We definitely should not have agreed to this. Pushing it back and delaying it for the full 14 days would have been the smartest move. Wonder what went on here

Tbf I thought they were one of the best sides we’ve played this season. They were really well coached. If they had some strikers they’d be a top, top championship side. Hope they lose tomorrow though. I certainly won’t be watching it.

Probably; their IQs are likely low enough that they can’t hold two coherent sides to an argument in their mind at the same time. For us normal people, we can have a discussion about how saints were in th wrong, but it wasn’t that bad, then Boro used it against us.

Ultimately, our intention was to see if Hackney was playing (he didn’t) …And they caught the spy before he saw anything. So how did it deserve such a harsh punishment? It didn’t materially affect the game in any way. It’s all from Boro blowing it out of proportion.

Im not trying to defend anything we have done. I agree that we are turds What I am saying if this was the other way around, Boro’s journalists would have been out in force saying the board is corrupt, the judge is an ex Saints player etc. They were weaponising all these little bits against us in a smart way. Public opinion and media outcry had a huge sway in this case and we let them win it with ease

Im not, this entire thing was trial by media in which Boro whipped up a storm to turn a minor rule breach into the crime of the century. That means we should have been doing the same. Instead we acted like amateurs