OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

Exactly...more the point. And Ely? It's 9 against 11!

After Tamesaint said we're 14/1 I put a couple of quid on but I notice even the bookies have drifted our odds to 16/1 after seeing our line up.

Thanks. Having read most of Glen's blogs over the years, I am coming to the conclusion that we should have a 'Glen for Manager' lobby as he talks more sense and has more idea than RS 😀

Arsenal starting to implode, they play attacking football leaving gaps for us to exploit, our players wanting to put on a show against a top team for their next contract (and it's live on TV) - it won't be 5/6 - 0. It wouldn't even surprise me if we won this game and still bugger up staying in the premiership. What's annoying is there's so much crap at the bottom of the League; just a pity we're the crappiest 😕

I think the best fly on the wall football series has been the car crash, "Sunderland 'til I Die". Even funnier, when it was made to document their return to the premiership. And the episode with trying to persuade Jack Rodwell to leave rather than fleece the club of £50k a week was especially good. But how many Jack Rodwells do we have in our team? Yes, we can sell Lavia for a profit, but which overpaid space wasters do we need to massage out the club?

I vaguely recall four or five games in after we'd beaten Leicester and Chelsea, it looked like we could be on for a good season. Then Lavia got injured and it fell to pot. Chelsea away, Man Utd away, they never really felt like it was the start of something good.

And who else did that - Chelsea? Managers don't want loads of prima donnas to choose from. That said, there isn't much of a nucleus in our current squad that's worth keeping. Still don't want Gerrard, Vieira or Cooper anywhere near our club and Selles surely won't need paying off...I don't want failures but at the same time don't know enough of who's out there who can rebuild teams and motivate overpaid, privileged pri*ks.

Guess if depends on how much SR want back on their investments. Lavia will go (£50m?), so will KWP (£30m?), Salisu, ABK will fetch an amount and frankly I'd be looking to get rid of most of the rest. Somehow, I think JWP will want to stay though I'd be happy to cash out on him. I agree Alcaraz, Sulemana, Tino, Tella & Smallbone can help provide a nucleus. We can go fishing in lower than the Championship for strikers (Rickie Lambert only cost £1m) and I don't follow what's coming through the Academy but is there anyone there who doesn't pitch up in the away end at our home games?

Not that I know anything about accounting but if you then get a third inter company loan going so you have a triangle on companies loaning each other at high interest rates, can't that take quite a few pounds off the profit and loss? I just don't see why the owners would just throw money at the club. They've also spent a fortune in the transfer windows but for what?

Think we need to set the bar higher than that 😀. Every season, Ralph seemed to get the team playing like Barcelona for half a dozen games before we'd revert back to our usual crap and this season it didn't happen. He seemed to change with the change of ownership at the club and from there it went downhill. I still remember him taking the plaudits from the fans at Leicester on his own after the players had turned to go back in and thought it was a bit odd. Like the poster who commented on Brighton and how they find their managers, that's what we need to do. Find another Ralph when he first came to the club and that should stop the rot. Don't go fishing in the usual pond merry-go-round managers.

Just got back from the game and scrolling through the comments. Must admit, I can't remember the last time I heard "you're not fit to wear the shirt" directed at our players. Was still hoping up to today's game that a miracle would happen and we'd win and that would start our climb out of relegation, but this game was the final nail. I can accept our players are shit, but I can't understand why they're so bereft of ideas. Don't they train on ways to break down teams set up to defend? Do they care about our club? Don't think so. They're just a bunch of mercenaries. Mixture of feeling pissed off and relief that I can now accept we're going down.

I remember when Djenepo scored against City he looked more surprised than anyone that he could kick a ball that far, but I agree, he runs at people and can't do us any harm. Similarly Edozie seems out of favour but runs at people. We have to have that attacking intent. There used to be a chant: "Attack..attack......attack, attack, attack" in the 70's/80's. I started shouting this in the Sheff Wed game a few months ago and people were looking with the 'patience, dear chap' look. When we're more positive, we do well. It isn't rocket science.

It would be nice to win and then our hopes will go through the roof until the Bournemouth game...but this Palace team has been transformed. Appreciate we need to go at them from the start but who with? Tall Paul can't do that. None of our other strikers can hit a barn door from 5 yards. Has to be the midfielders forcing a way through...so Alcaraz will star. Looking forward to this one, though with Zaha still injured, going to miss JWP's wind-ups.

You're right and sometimes my thinking is stuck in the past when we were 'the best team on the South Coast' but there must be a draw for someone who sees an under-performing club with a solid infrastructure and with an owner who seems prepared to splash the cash. Even if/when we go down and sell half the team, there could be cash to rebuild the way you want to.

Probably true, so then it goes down to how well we sell the club. He's played for us so got an affinity, we're a Brighton but only better, he's looking for a club where he can show improvement (😕), he has a house nearby (don't know if he does), you've seen what a bunch of tossers run the top six clubs ... time to build a yourself a legend

This is the point. Last time we were relegated everyone was saying we were sleepwalking in to relegation. And we did. This time, money has been spent on new players, we know we're in the sh*t but there's no belief. No attacking intent. No plan as to how we get out of the hole we've dug ourselves into. Didn't expect anything from today but next week really will be the end if we don't win.

Initially my thinking is why would someone with £20m+ in the bank want to join a bunch of losers like us, but the more I think about it, there is a chance. We took on Glen Hoddle after his mystic meg brain fart as England manager and I still think that was a great season for us with him as manager. Maybe there could be a way of Potter joining us to get his career back on track. It's all about how the club sell it to him.

Has Pep nicked Ruben's polo-neck?

To think we were going to stumble on a Guardiola in Selles has been wishful thinking. Ultimately, yes he is Spanish (tick), yes he wears a stylish outfit (tick) but he managed Copenhagen for was it four games? At Chelsea, the players seemed to really show an appreciation for him but that was probably more because we'd got rid of NJ than for Selles' tactical awareness. I've been disappointed with our approach and set up against Brentford and W.Ham and can't see him as a long term solution...unless he achieves the virtually impossible.

For two usually top six teams, they don't half carry some rubbish. Havertz is a liability. Nunez is awful... and our CBs are arguably better than these two teams (though VVD isn't playing).

This is what concerns me too. Yes, beating Walsall to get promoted out of League One was a memorable moment, but the uncertainty before Marcus Liebherr came along was very real. Getting relegated will be a real headache. With the money we've spent on crap, I can't see how we're anywhere near financially breaking even this year. If relegated, we'll flog our better players for a song and be left with a load of overpaid, uncaring tw*ts. And there are also plenty of other clubs in the Championship and below that represent a better 'deal' for some wealthy investor, so yes, there could well be trouble ahead.

Understand the idea of managing the game in sections, but like having a flutter on the horses, the one that starts last never seems to get to the finishing post first. Surely you go at a team from the start and hope for an early goal. Also the mindset is different is you start closing down and forcing errors from the beginning. It all becomes much more positive. Look at how we played against Man U. And when players tire, you bring on others and hope you hold out. Setting up for a draw and hoping to sneak a goal does not work.

On balance, today's results were good to us. Thought Bournemouth beating Liverpool was an aberration, but now they need to take it easy on those aberrations! Leicester losing was good and the Forest/Wolves draw was a good one. Combine that with Leeds not pulling off a shock and we should be relatively happy.

Read somewhere that Lavia & Diallo are out with concussion after a training ground accident....then checked the date!

At the start of the season, people were singing Moyes' praises and saying how good West Ham are. No, they're shit. Apart from the occasional win, they're on a downward trend and we need to be positive from the start and go after them. Some games are for the taking and this is one......but I had high expectations before the last Brentford game too. Depends what Saints team turns up.