James

He's going to Qatar?

Totally agree. I think we are in a weaker position, from a long term sustainability perspective, than the last time we went up, where we had a group of talented players capable of stepping up and hungry to get there having never played in the top league, versus now, where we have a load of guys who might be good enough for the Championship but have shown themselves not good enough for the PL. Could see Ipswich being really strong next year as they have a great young coach and will be coming off an excellent prior season. Lambert's goals were a huge part of our success last time and even if Che is good enough for this year we know that as soon as we go back up he won't be.

Re Downes: he may want to be the Rice replacement but realistically there is no chance he will be. Barely played for WH in the league last year and, by the end of the window, I'd be surprised if he wasn't third/fourth choice. Of course he has to say that, he's a WH fan I believe and he probably thinks he's got the chance to step into an open spot, but I don't think Moyes fancies him (based on his usage last year) and IMO a move to us, with a chance of promotion and coming up as a starter under a manager who knows him, might well be attractive at the end of the window.

Just noticed Lanzini released by West Ham, CFDAJFU?

If, and I stress if, we lose JWP to Fulham and Tino to Brighton in the same window then it just emphasises how much of a SR-induced fuck up last season was.

Gyokeres would be my primary target if he was in any way obtainable but suspect the price is too high for us and that he will go to a bigger club. We should have gone for him in the summer/instead of panicking and buying Tall Paul. Failing that would like to see any of Manning, Grimes, Piroe from Swansea and Ronnie Edwards and Jack Taylor from Peterborough.

Completely perplexed as to why any club with winning ambitions would be considering Selles. Absolutely dreadful. Nathan Jones would be a much better option for Reading and that really is saying something.

There would have been a meltdown if we had appointed him so its a lose lose.

If we are looking at former Wolves managers would also be happy with Lage - he had them playing some good stuff, just didn’t have a striker.

Yet another statement that doesn’t commit to being there next year. If he cares that much there’s one way of showing it - give us a year in the Championship to help put right the wrongs.

Thank god they showed their mettle in sticking with the Spanish Wigley instead. Truly inspirational stuff.

Hard to see how keeping Mad Nate could have been any worse tbh. The Spanish Wigley. Sooner his departure is confirmed the better. Until that happens I worry there’s a chance these SR morons will continue with him.

Is Carrillo better than Tall Paul? Think he might be, at least he got an assist…

This sums up how I am feeling right now. For a while we were a club on the up and one that made you think almost anything was possible. But for our purple patch after the COVID restart that period of optimism is long gone. For me, and I know others will disagree, the decline started when Koeman walked out. We had a golden opportunity to kick on from a 6th placed finish and we blew it. We appointed the wrong manager, signed the wrong players etc. The attempt to "get us back on track" by appointing Pellegrino was a disaster and, bar a few OK periods with Ralph, we've been pretty abject for a while. Hard to say this hasn't been coming really - the squad is shattered mentally. Quite looking forward to the Championship, provided that it comes with the clear out we so desperately need. Not massively confident in SR's decision making given how poor its been this season though.

Maitland-Niles is just terrible.

God the sooner we get rid of this bunch of wasters the better. An insult to travelling fans. They don’t even care.

Yep. Arguably he's even worse than Jones. Almost as if the guy who has been here all season shares a lot of the responsibility for what has happened... Sooner Selles gets his P45 and we rip it up and start again the better.

This lot don’t care so why should we? I’ve switched it off. Sooner Selles is fired the better.

Are we sure Jones is the worst manager we’ve had this season? From where I am sitting it’s Selles. Utterly clueless.

2-1 now. Come on Fulham.

He is top top quality.

Just goes to show that if we hadn't appointed Selles off the back of one result (which, looking back, was a one off) that, with the way results have gone, staying up would have been achievable had the board gotten the appointment right. Yet another mistake.

All I want is to stop with this overengineered false 9 crap - we are not good enough to play like that. The opposition doesn't have to think about us in possession as we are always so deep. Honestly, I'd go 4-4-1-1 and play Charly just behind Big Paul (he might at least give Arsenal defenders something to think about). The few times we've actually put in a cross for Paul we've almost scored so let's focus on doing that more often. At least AMN can't play on Friday so we are "forced" to play KWP in his best position. I sort of understood him playing LB last year as Tino was so good but continually playing on his weaker side to accommodate a player as crap as AMN has been madness.

Not really 9 games when he’s the only constant over the whole season from a coaching perspective. But, either way, are you saying you’ve seen enough in these “9 games” to give him the benefit of a doubt for next season? We can’t score and we can’t defend and everything Selles describes in terms of tactics is the polar opposite of what is happening on the pitch. Either he can’t translate his ideas onto the pitch (he’s basically had a season’s worth of input in total) or his ideas are cr*p. Pretty surprised anyone who has watched us recently can conclude that anything other than wholesale change from a coaching perspective is what we need here.

Bought tickets for this after we drew with Spurs and showed some fight - wishing I hadn't at this point.