Dman

Thought of the day. Does a witness statment (and lets assume some form of paperwork leading back to Spors) from an ex employee stating that we have asked them to scout opponents training, matter all that much if there is no evidence that we've actually done it before (within the 72 hour window)?

Thank god for that.

A question I'd almost certainly be highlighting as a mitigation point, if I was the club: Are the EFL pushing for a disproportionate sanction here (we don't really know what they are pushing for at this stage)? If so has that been influence by: 1. The fact the EFL have a committee memeber who is also on the board of Middlesbrough. Therefore highlighting a significant conflict of interest. 2. The media campaign clearly whipped up by Middlesbrough. Even the local MP applying pressure pubically during an ongoing investigation.

Can we park this utter nonsense that the EFL are going to carry out forensic investigations on our technology. Its utter nonsense that they couldn't do even if they wanted to.

There is a world outside of middlesbrough mate, a bloody nice one as well. You should try it.

what sort of legal battles would that open? Millwall would have a case as the 3rd best side this season.

So game is planned to go ahead but subject to change - that change would be in the event we are kicked out and therefore appeal. That appeal process would then surely take it to a point where playing the final is into world cup territory and not possible.. EFL saving face by essentially keeping everything on the table, whilst realistically knowing everything isn't on the table? Or am I reading into something that isn't there

Its utter mental. Honestly, the Boro PR team have played a blinder. Everyone has forgotten how they finished the season and all focus is now on how much of a hero HellBerg is for surving through such a difficult time of his life.

I don't disagree. Basically I couldnt really care about it. Its breakig the rules, yes, but so is diving, time wasting etc. Its sneaky, in any other league across the world its not against the rules, the EFL introduced it after being bitten before. If you think its anything more than that, youre either a Boro fan or a complete sap.

Whilst I agree it is against the EFL rules, and do think its all blown way out of proportion. You need to be incredibly naive to beleive the lone wolf theory.

Given how poorly he tried to hide himself and how quickly he shit himself when caught, I think its unlikley that we've sent the same fella before and he wasn't caught.

I've just had a look at google maps and Millwall looks like you could observe training from the pavement outside 😂 Bristol City has a golf course attached so that is feasible that we might have done that - Norwich looks like its impossible to spy unless you've tresspassed. Jesus, I can't wait for this to be over, i am in way too deep.

That would be pretty easy to prove tbf

For what its worth, this is true by the way. So unless MB is board memeber or part of the legal team or getting his info from boro, bucket of salt needed at this stage.

who else has grassed us up then?

I outright refuse to believe that we would have done anything to tresspass on an oppositions training ground. If there is eveidence, it would have to be from clubs with a training ground visible from a public place.

A tactic that might have worked had they not squinned to the press on a hour by hour basis. I don't see how that is feasible now. If we approach them, that is effectively us admiting guilt.

It'd be funny if Saints took the approach of "nope, thats not the bloke. Just looks like him... prove it". eerrr well we have these credit card statements.

If found guilty, it almost certainly would be (Not boro, but the hotel also owned by Steve Gibson). i believe the club are aware, so I have no doubt the lawyers will be having a look. If there is a case to answer, they'll persue it no doubt.

What on earth are the EFL doing disclosing that info to them? if true of course.

Absolutely nothing points to that other than what a few jurnos who are being fed PR by boro are saying.

Other than mid-week, its not. Its not just wembley who'd have to agree, the police etc would as well. will not be moved.

Moving it will not happen. There isn't a feasible slot, unless they decided to play it midweek which would cost millions in lost revenue.

Nah - Its just them trying to stop their fans from spamming their ticket office. Due course will be by the weekend 👍

Oh, expects tickets to be on sale by sunday at the very latest.