Dman

Given how poorly he tried to hide himself and how quickly he shit himself when caught, I think its unlikley that we've sent the same fella before and he wasn't caught.

I've just had a look at google maps and Millwall looks like you could observe training from the pavement outside 😂 Bristol City has a golf course attached so that is feasible that we might have done that - Norwich looks like its impossible to spy unless you've tresspassed. Jesus, I can't wait for this to be over, i am in way too deep.

That would be pretty easy to prove tbf

For what its worth, this is true by the way. So unless MB is board memeber or part of the legal team or getting his info from boro, bucket of salt needed at this stage.

who else has grassed us up then?

I outright refuse to believe that we would have done anything to tresspass on an oppositions training ground. If there is eveidence, it would have to be from clubs with a training ground visible from a public place.

A tactic that might have worked had they not squinned to the press on a hour by hour basis. I don't see how that is feasible now. If we approach them, that is effectively us admiting guilt.

It'd be funny if Saints took the approach of "nope, thats not the bloke. Just looks like him... prove it". eerrr well we have these credit card statements.

If found guilty, it almost certainly would be (Not boro, but the hotel also owned by Steve Gibson). i believe the club are aware, so I have no doubt the lawyers will be having a look. If there is a case to answer, they'll persue it no doubt.

What on earth are the EFL doing disclosing that info to them? if true of course.

Absolutely nothing points to that other than what a few jurnos who are being fed PR by boro are saying.

Other than mid-week, its not. Its not just wembley who'd have to agree, the police etc would as well. will not be moved.

Moving it will not happen. There isn't a feasible slot, unless they decided to play it midweek which would cost millions in lost revenue.

Nah - Its just them trying to stop their fans from spamming their ticket office. Due course will be by the weekend 👍

Oh, expects tickets to be on sale by sunday at the very latest.

For what its worth, i'm told that the club do not expect expulsion to be on the cards. Playing for a fine, expecting a (suspended) points deduction. Reliable source - been tighted lipped and sheepish from pretty much the minute the news broke until now. Club have clearly been incredibly tight on no info getting out. Things could obviously change as decision hasn't been made yet. No idea of timing on this. Told to ignore the noise in the media. Not much to go on there, not much more than we already know, but hopefully gives an insight into how the club are playing this.

Boro wouldn't have to pay anything. The breach is from the golf club / hotel. But they're all owned by Steve Gibson, so to hurt him personally would be sweet enough. I'd go as far as saying that any GDPR breach is significantly more significant as you're then touching on the law.

Once our (minor) punishment is confirmed, the ultimate shithousery would be to knock out a few saints branded ghillie suits and packs of tissues.

It certainly looks like its worth asking the lawyers if there's something here. Will Salt could walk out of this with an absolute wedge if he sue's for potential leak of personal information to a news paper without his knoweldge or good reason resulting in potential loss of future earnings due to damaged reputation which could impact his career. As a side point, in reality, is anyone going to care that he doen this? Its a rule only applied to the EFL - Had he worked for a PL side, it wouldn't be considered a rule breach.

Middlesbrough football clubs leaks like a sieve. Seemingly anyone who cares to listen have inside info from that club.

Honestly, I 100% agree in 99.99% of cases, but in this one, fuck them. They absolutely deserve it after the way they have behaved. Take anyone related to that football club to the cleaners where possible.

Again, no identifiable information from that other than "oh, that looks like the same guy". Its possible that they found him onlinked in i suppose.

which in itself is dodgy ground. However, I would be asking - how did they get his name in the first place? There is no way anyone knew his name just from a photo or CCT. As far as I'm aware he wasn't on the clubs offical site. I'd be amazed if they (middlesbrough) haven't used his card details to positively identify him.

The thing I find strange about all of this is that if that was a PL fixture, its not against the rules and we therefore aren't considered 'cheats'. That surely has to have some impact in the mitigation.

Does it matter though? it would still be a rule breach (much like only using an iphone is). I guess it helps our arguement for mitigation.