Dman

In the unlikley event of them replacing us in the PO final, please round up as many people as possible and spend the week 'spying on thier training sessions' Extra points if you can get some footage and leak it online (or send to Hull). As a member of the public filming in a public place, there is nothing they can do about it 😃

Yep. Ignore the leaks, they're clearly nonsense.

He can personally, but he cannot use data from 1 company to assist with another... surely.

Hmmm not true unfortunately. They could argue that they have a legal right to the footage due to it assisting with there soon to be legal case.

Possibly.... But how have they got his name? There is no way your idenitifying a random bloke from that photo alone. As far as I'm aware, he's not on the club site. Possibly linked-in? Circumstantial at best.

As far as I am aware, they are all individual companies. Thus this is a serious breach of personal data (from the hotel)

Well exactly. If they have, I suspect Mr Gibson is in a world for trouble.

yeah, we'll 100% get found guilty. Its a case of mitigation now though. I don't think I've seen anything o suggest that this is anywhere near as serious as they are pushing for. I also think they have walked a very tight rope and we have a number of cases we could potentially persue against them. This whole GDPR breach from the hotel feels like a bit of a smoking gun.

you'd also assume that the act of watching is enough anyway.

I'm sure they have some smart people on the case, but its honestly mind-blowing how they think this can be a sensible strategy.

This is another thing that crossed my mind. Surely, they aren't allowed to just share CCTV or bank details with anyone 😃

From what I have seen (obviously needs a degree of salt), we have claimed it was a lone wofl with no knowledge from the club. If it cannot be proven it was a conspiracy that came from the manager and/or someone else at the club, he has insinuated that it is "they sent someone". That for me, is libelous - or at least arguably is.

Its always struck me that them opening their mouths as they have done is a risky game that I think will bite them on the arse. You could possibly hide it through press releases, but when they manager has pubically said "they sent someone up here" (to cheat essentially), whilst the investigaton is ongoing, is touching on libel I'd say.

yep. There is no way we've sanctioned anyone to break into a training ground. If it was true that thye have evidence (not sure I beleive it), Pompey would defo be one i'd think that we might have spied on. There training ground is less secure than Boro's

I wouldn't beleive any of this nonsense tbh. Unless the independent investigator is blabbering (unlikley), its all PR being pushed by them.

Too late for that. He had his chance and he went blabbering to the press, which would make us paying it off unfeasible at this stage. If he'd rang up saints saying I've caught you doing this - I want x for this to not go to the EFL, we might have played ball.

Did Scienza get injured?

This, for me, is a huge mitigation. Sneaking in to a private area and hiding in bushes is one thing and would rightly deserve an incredibly harsh punishment. Standing behind a publically accessible fence and peeping over is much, much less serious.

It makes it even more fucking annoying / stupid / braindead that we got caught ffs. Just carry a golf bag on you, you absolute clown.

100% all a show to get attention / whip up pressure on the EFL.

On his way to Hull

I had orginally thought that we were probably doing this all the time, but I'm starting to think, someone has let on how unsecure and stupid their secuirty is and we've had a bit of a sneaky oportunitic go at gaining an advantage. Its cheating by the definition, but so is diving, timewasting etc. Storm in a tea cup drummed up by a desperate Boro side who knew they didn't have what it takes to beat us on the pitch.

That to me looks like it is 100% part of the golf course / hotel, which would probably be considered pubically accessible land. Not quite the stakeout the media fed, is it.

This is what I don't get or understand from any of this, why do they seemingly think that they can dictate the punishment (or if it happens). How much would we owe them? the revenue generated from the play-off final? Its not like we've done this in a 200m shoot out game, they'd still have to beat Hull (which if last night was anything to go by, they'd be dead on their feet by the time the game started). If this has happened and he has approached saints, I hope we take the fuckers to the cleaners.

There seems to be a real split of opinon. Anyone who's played the game (and has no assoiation to that club), thinks its all a bit of a joke and don't seem too bothered. Jurnos who are based in the north east are seemingly losing their heads. A moment for them to get 5 mins of fame I suppose.