Dman

I don't think he's done a great deal right either - He's shifted the players which bigger teams want, that's about it. We don't sign Manning or Downes without Martin being in charge - so he's only really responsible for bringing in Charles.

How do you know that they weren't negotiating in the back ground? Reports were that Swansea wanted £20m for him - they got him for £12 - £16m. I'd put a very decent amount of money on the fact that there has been discussions for some time before the deal was announced.

Playing devils advocate here a bit, but I don't really have a problem with getting him on loan. A try before you buy - if we go up (unlikley imo), we have ability to move on to better players who'll be more suitable for the PL. There was no chance we'd get Downes in on a permanent deal. Maybe if we go up, not in the championship though - this is a shop window for him.

yep. It's been obviously coming since the start. Oh well, at least we got an extra, eerrrr £5m, for JWP!!!!

I'm hoping that Holgate is seen as a erplacement for Tino / KWP, rather than ABK. I'd like to think the links to Wood suggest we're still in for another CB as well. Which would leave us with; Stephens, Bednerak, New... Holgate, Charles who can cover if needed for a short period of time. That feels like a good balance imo.

Exactly what I was saying a few months back when people were lauding us for holding out for pennies in the Martin deal. Cut off our nose to spite our face.

I really don't mind this at all. Can play a few positions in CB and RB. I actually think he's better at RB than he is CB. He'd give us a lot more balance with him at RB given with Mannings inability to defend, which leaves us way to exposed with 2 attacking full backs. Loan is low risk - There's a player in there, hopefully we have an option to buy.

Have you been living under a rock for the past 2 seasons? How often have we seen this happen.

Rushed through a deal? 1 week before the start of the end of the window and got him for a relatively decent fee. Not sure what, if anything, about that is rushed?

Scaremongering 😂 Everything points to the fact everyone is open to be sold - There is too much smoke around Tella and more specifically Che, for it to not be true. It's not guesswork, its forming an opinion based on the evidence provided which is pretty strong. A little more guess work around KWP and Sulamana granted, but I don't think anyone at all would be surprised if either were to leave. The fact that we we're in for a winger from Genk to me would suggest we're expecting at least 1 to leave. Also seemingly linked to a few RB's, which again, would suggest that 1 is off.

Was probably licking his lips before he actually saw him play.

If the window closed today and we have the same squad as we currently have now, I don't think you'll find many moaning. The trouble is, it doesn't and we wont. We'll almost certainly lose Che & Tella and we'll most probably lose KWP and Sulamana as well. The issue isn't so much losing them, more so we're giving ourselves no time to replace them.

Feels like we've wasted so much time on this deal when it was clear that Painstil was never keen on coming here anyway. Lets hope big Paul is fit and ready, we're gonna need to use him this season 🙃

It makes complete sense. We cannot rely on anyone other than Che through the middle. Can't believe we've not been all over Piroe at 12m.

I would imagine that we knew Lavia wouldn't play a game in the champ and probably assumed that JWP would be gone sooner than he was.

He'll go to Bournemouth - I'm almost certain of it.

Don't worry mate, we've got players and agents queuing up to get into the club. All will be fine.

Ohh Dickey boy - Is this the same user who was laughing at everyone of my posts that points out the incompetency of this club all but a week or 2 ago? How things change.

There is absolutely no reason why, even more so at that price, we couldn't have the 2 of them (if Che doesn't leave). Piroe going to Leeds not only takes a sensible, obvious replacement for adams away from us, it also strengthens a promotion rival. We needed another forward anyway aside from Che we have nothing up top. Che is also very obviously going. All wilcox has done this window is managed to shift Lavia for a few extra bob (because of liverpools desperation), yet hes lauded as a hero on here.

Surely at this point we need to say to him, if you're not gone by the end of this week, you're not leaving at all. We're shooting ourselfs in the foot here as its clearly going to drag on to the wire leaving us no time to replace. We either draw a line now or we twist and spend £20m on his replacement now (Piroe). Worse case, we rotate the 2 of them.. Not a bad thought..

It'll be just as bad a move for him though. Despite spending a few bob, Bournemouth look terrible from what I've seen of them. They'll stay up as there will be 3 teams worse than them, much like Everton. There's probably 5 teams fighting to not be that 3rd team to go down with Sheff Utd and Luton.

fulham have alredy signed his replacement - they've brought in Jimenez from Wolves . My money is still on him going to Bournemouth. I reckon Solanke will move to West Ham and they'll nip in for Adams late in the window.

Yes. Very easily replaceable for that sum - I've not been massively impressed with him to date, all be it other than 1 (2) tidy goals with his left foot. SAA will be starting on that wing come the end of the season anyway. Tella isn't a PL player and never will be imo, his value is at its highest now, feels like a sensible time to move on and replace based on the sums being branded about.

Whilst not yet official, hes clearly gone... Way too much smoke for no fire/

Terrible deal for us, terrible move for Che, not a great deal for them either. We as fans and Martin as someone who need to pick a competitive side to gain promotion are being let down by the club who clearly lack any ambition other than making money. Losing Che is 20 goals taken out of our side - thats the difference between promotion or not. He's not the best player, he's replaceable (especially if we do go up), but I do not trust the senior figures at our club to get it right.