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On a serious note, take away style of football, nice hair and hipster cucks.. Jones achievements as a manager, pound for pound, far outweigh anything RM has achieved.

Get RM’s cock out of your mouth, you cuck

Some on here just cannot see the bigger picture. It'd cost us £15m to sack him now and NOONE IN THE WORLD OF FOOTBALL WOULD WANT THIS JOB. We'll be getting £15m for him next season when Real Mardid come knocking... look at Komapny FFS!!! Sort term pain for long term gain in SR's quest to the be the best Yo-yo club in england.

imo should never captain the club again after that. 3-1 down, struggling with injuries suspensions as it is, absolutely no-need to do something which in this day in age you will not get away with. The wose part, it was from an attcking corner ffs.

Other than the obvious which CB has stated, my point was more that Luton (a squad full of worse championship players than our squad of championship players) managed 4 more points than us at this stage. Given their lack of resources, do you think they were trying to replicate 2008 Baraclona and giving teams 1-2 goals a game from mistakes trying to play that way? So to Lighthouse point, its not what a team full of championship players gets you. Its what a poor, niave, manager (whos only playing for himself at this point) gets you.

Luton had 9 points at this point last season. They currently sit 19th in the championship.

What would have happened when Markus' money dried up? at some point, he would have said enough is enough, much like Kat did. In general, Kat's leadership of the club was brilliant. She and those around her, maintained us as a PL club in a sustainble way. There was no way somone like VvD was sticking around when liverpool came knocking, regardless of who was the CEO - Same with Potch, Mane etc. Unfortunatley, our downfall was 2-3 seasons of poor recuritment. That's what eventually cost us.

Good morning saints fans As you all open the 4th door on your festive calandar, its all hands on deck at COT HQ, in preperation for GO TIME. I know it can be a long, tough couple of months waiting for the COT, so we agreed its only fair to give an update. I can't say too much at the moment, but it is going to be a very interesting window. Make of that what you will. Keep your eyes peeled, beware of the false prophets and remember, loose lips sink ships.

Lets be honest, Osvaldo was a brilliant player, known to the manager at the time. He was a total loon though, which ultimatley was his downfall... If anything Poch should have known that, so I'd argue that one is on him rather than Cortese.

I thnk we should just be greatful that we've got 5 points in such a tough leauge. We should consider ourselves blessed and proud to be watching these BRAVE young men, riddled with scar tissue, battle it out with the worlds best each week.

I made a thread after the Forest game saying we're going to beat Derby's record. I got called a drama queen and a bed wetter and the thread was closed. Its been painfully obvious that Martins football, which only managed to get us to be the 4th best side in the championship, would be a disaster in this leauge with the level of player we had.

Martin wont bring us back up. He just about managed it last season, he wont get that luck again.

If we got the ball to him in the box (theirs not ours), I actually think he'd be pretty sucessful.

Lets get something straight... . Martin is in no way comparitable with Ralph. Ralph is a pretty decent premier leauge manager. Martin is a mid-table championship manager. Martin has done nothing to suggest that he deserves to stay on for any games longer than he's already had (5 too many imo). It ended ugly with Ralph, he was given 6 months longer than he shoudl have been. Clearly, in hindsight it looks daft replacing him with Jones but he was spent with us and had we been a little more sensible with his replacement we probably would have stayed up. Its a shame the board threw money at Jones in January and not Ralph in the summer. Your reasoning is a bit odd if I'm honest. Plently of sides have made changes mid-season and been sucessful as a result. Damage limition for us now. We need to get to 12 points, which were not getting under this clown.

They're really good, we're really shit. Easy pickings - on par with the bournemouth game.. expect it might actually be worse (they're just better). If we're going to lose, I kinda hope its an ugly one. That'll hopefully stick a rocket up the boards arse.

So does AA. Doesn't mean he's good enough at this level and his lack of abaility to defend is causing us to conceed goals.

and lost us the game with some poor defending at the back post. Not for the first time this season either.

The difference is / was - when McCarthy tried to play it the managers way we conceeded. When he went against the managers instructions, we didn't.

(Mods feel free to merge this with his other thread - I'm yet to find out how to sensibly search of old threads) He gets such an easy ride of things, but sorry but this bloke is crap. Simply put, he's another Cedric - looks alright going forward but absolutely cannot defend to save his life. Stop playing him, he's not good enough.

When McCarthy did decide to go long and clear the danger, it sparked a sarcy reaction from the manager... damned if you do, damned if you don't springs to mind. McCarthy is clearly not comfortable playing this way, we need to adjust to suit that. That pass is on the manager, noone else.

What has happened to Charlie Taylor? Why is he not getting a sniff? at 2-2, the locgial sub (was he even on the bench?) is to bring on CT, rather than Suga who is absolutely useless defensively.

It doesn't just encapsulate our season, but his whole time here. We were making these mistakes in the championship, but we simply had better players than everyone else, which dug us out of a hole more often than not. Its an easy excuse to say "what can he do about players making mistakes", but its litterally his job to coach and pick a side and system where they wont make these mistakes. The first goal, whilst is a mistake from McCarthy and poor from Downes, is down to noone but Russell Martin. Had we had Moyes in the dug out, we are not rolling the ball to an attacking midfilder on the edge of our own box with 3 players around him. McCarthy made that pass because that is what is being ingrained in him by the manager.

If hes as hughly rated as the club keep pumping out to the media, he wont be out of work long and thus wouldn't cost us much to sack him. The problem is, people will see that he's all fart no shit - I can't see any PL side taking a punt, so it would be down to him taking a pay cut and dropping down to the championship.

He's taken a team full of L1 players, who were destined for relegation, to mid-table championship (without any significant investment) in 18 months. Martin achieved the bare minimum expected last season and finished 4th in a 3 horse race and has spectacularly failed this season. Pound for Pound, Rohl's achivements have been greater and who knows what he'd be able to achieve at a side with greater resources (i.e us). All if and buts, but I'm almost certain Rohl will go on to have a more sucessful career than Martin.

albeit for a team who are player for player much, much worse than the the players russball had in teh same league last year. Rohl's achivements are far greater than Martins.