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Ice

Let's hope so. Because that's the right thing. In parallel, for the entertainment value. Although different circumstances, the SFA and SPL wanted Rangers to just drop to the SFL division below. From a purely monetary point of view, the SFA didn't want them relegated at all, and the SPL had a vote on it. TV and attendance pennies foremost in their minds. When they got relegated/ removed, financial incentives were offered to the league to make the drop just a single league. Again, from a monetary point of view, every league club would get a boost from having a big (new) club climb it's way back up. So, they voted against that, dropping them to the third division. Something like that could, and should happen. But vested interests will be working to minimise the punishment. Another different scenario I'm reminded of is the Saudi bribery scandal involving arms sales. The investigation was allowed to proceed. Possibly because it would be the end of any politician to be seen publically trying to derail it. But when it was getting to a certain stage the Labour gov, under Blair, stopped it due to "national interests." As soon as City were found guilty, out came rumblings from the UAE about their other and future investments, alongside how close they were to Burnham in Manchester. You can bet there's all sorts of things going on behind the scenes of this.

Bar

Giraffe

If it spins while out of control, that's revolutionary.

No one has the attention span to discuss. 🙂

Laser

The beeb put up a table showing Carrick's overall position since he took over last season. I was a little surprised to see Man Utd so high, after their poor start. It shows they were happy to be taken in by his overachievement, last season, using as a reason not to overhaul things. Classy farewell message too. He can leave with his head high. Premier League table since Michael Carrick became manager Position Team Played Points 1 Arsenal 27 63 2 Manchester City 27 56 3 Manchester United 27 47 4 Brighton and Hove Albion 27 46 5 Bournemouth 27 46 6 Liverpool 27 43 7 Leeds United 27 39 8 Chelsea 27 37 9 Everton 27 36 10 Aston Villa 27 35 11 Brentford 27 34 Use the column header buttons to sort columns by ascending or descending orderCurrently not sorted Position Team Played Points 1 Arsenal 27 63 2 Manchester City 27 56 3 Manchester United 27 47 4 Brighton and Hove Albion 27 46 5 Bournemouth 27 46 6 Liverpool 27 43 7 Leeds United 27 39 8 Chelsea 27 37 9 Everton 27 36 10 Aston Villa 27 35 11 Brentford 27 34 12 Nottingham Forest 27 32 13 Sunderland 27 32 14 Fulham 27 31 15 Newcastle United 27 29 16 Tottenham Hotspur 27 26 17 West Ham United 17 25 18 Crystal Palace 27 24 19 Wolverhampton Wanderers 17 13 20 Hull City 10 11 21 Ipswich Town 10 11 22 Coventry City 10 9 23 Burnley 17 9

How dare those pesky supporters call him out for it. 🙂 It's another reason he wanted Russ. Each would have known the other had failed upwards, and they could protect each other inside the club.

Absolutely the highlight of Talksport. Or anything else really. How many people could you just listen to talk about anything, knowing it's going to be not only interesting and knowledgeable, but also open and happy to get others involved.

I didn't read your post, in tribute to your view, which I didn't read, of there being no internet. 🙂

"I see myself as a manager" Wilcox's preferred style is going to be steamrollered by Poch. He may have a period early on, with the team struggling, as Poch's ideas settle in. It will be a time where he would be wise to not interfere with the tactics. Having said that, it could be a long season regardless. They do look as though most sides have overtaken them. Again, Wilcox should be looking closer to home, before meddling.

Handy he's getting some Championship football, as that's where City could be. 🙂

I heard he'd taken over at FC Basil.

Summing up their ability to determine quality right there. 🙂 I was sorry to read that Danny Kelly had died. He brought a different level of energy for football and music to his programmes. I'd listen to Trans Europe Express every now and again, and he was a big part of why.