Warriorsaint

Addiction has its consequences

Brexiters have gone very quiet haven’t they?

The Taliban are not Al Quiada, of which I refer. The Taliban are bastards yes but our presence in Afghanistan allowed us to have our thumbs on the training camps for insurgents intent on launching attacks on the west. To me it was a price worth paying and yes a heavy one. All we’ve done by pulling out is give twenty years of money to arms firms and no further on. Insurgent training camps will now continue to pop up . With the west kicked out it will be that much harder to launch attacks against them. Indeed the Taliban have liberated many prisons that have had insurgents locked up for years. Weston knows this, of course, but likes to play the contrarian. Probably a very nice old lady in real life. I won’t know though as I have him/her on ignore.

Raab, no calls to Afghan or Pakistani foreign office for 6 months. Anyone left to defend this grifter? Sunday times for context

Maybe join the single market?

No Gammons for Christmas 😂 Just on the ITV news lol. Thanks Brexit for the laughs.

Done. Ignore

Lets inject bleach!

OMG, you are doing this for a wind up aren’t you? Utter wummery

Rather keep them running there than our streets. It a messy business. No training camps out in the open. There will be now. Not really bothered about the Taliban. are you deliberately obtuse? Or is it just a persona?

TBF this is a good post

I agree that regime change wasn’t the objective. Just mission creep. A nice bonus. I remember at the time it was Tony’s ethical foreign policy that was more influential for the mission creep. The Us were launching cruise missles and then had to engage in country to get the nutjobs out of the mountains. The Taliban were in the way. Doesn’t matter both egg and Hypo have elements of truth. Both correct and both wrong. Truth is ill conceived from the start and Olivers army pay as always

I try not to these days. Used to be a newshound but cant do it anymore. All too much really. I find my natural optimism is taking a kicking as I get older and find more and more that ignorance is bliss. I think the lack of control over events or ability to influence events is not good for our mental health so trying to care less really. Indeed the last council elections was the first time I had never voted in thirty years. I realise shouting into the void is pointless as well but it can be fun.

A fair and balanced post

Selective aren’t you? For me its always been about Al Quaida and ISIS. I have changed my mind and the mission creep was a mistake. These people I refer to are those terrorists we had our thumb on. I suspect you know that but a contrarian will be contrary. I find your internalised rage quite worrying. You offer nothing to a debate and seem to be so set in your opinions that you cannot see other points of view and evolve your thoughts. It is not weakness to visit your own opinions and admit you are wrong or change your mind. I doubt you have ever changed your mind on anything. You have my sympathy.

Glad to see we have learned from our history that empire building is, in fact unproductive. We did it for centuries.

Just so we know , we are no more competent than the Yanks. Utter shitshow.

Agreed. Mission creep is what usually happens afterwards and therin lies the seeds for disaster. We have just delayed them for twenty years. They haven’t gone away. We will hear of them again soon enough. Funny that before today IS wasn’t mentioned much. We will hear of them a lot more now.

No, my opinion of his policy to continue with the withdrawal had changed. Once the decision had been made by Trump there were two choices. To overturn or comply. He chose the lesser of two evils. I can understand the logic. The manner of withdrawal is a disaster though. I never agreed with the withdrawal in the first place for reasons laid out previously but that’s a moot point now

Not arguing, I agree. This is on the current administration. Am I missing something? Im not laying this at Trump. Perhaps the only thing they agreed on. This stage is all on Biden. The fact that they have armed the Taliban to the teeth where they have more military hardware than the entire British land military is mental. The one statistic that they now have more blackhawk helicopters than 85% of the worlds military is astounding.

I remember it vividly. The calls for Immediate retribution were thunderous. The rage was palpable. People were calling for wiping Afghanistan off the earth.

agreed, no running from this one. Just laying out the fact that the touch paper for this was lit 18 months ago. There was plenty of time to prepare for this. The fact that it feels like the fall of Berlin is pure negligence

Just watch this. This is unreal and definitely on the current administration no matter how much I can lay at Trump. Does anyone understand how any of our leaders get into positions of power. They couldn’t run an ice cream van.