Warriorsaint

Don’t like to be reminded of the clusterfuck of Brexit. That’s a shame. If you don’t like it go bury your head in the sand like all the other evangelicals. BTW please do post all the stories you can about the sunny uplands. I’d be glad to read them.....What’s that? crickets....

Anything to add to the debate? No didn’t think so.

Yes. We’ll get used to living without stuff, we’ll get used to visas, red tape, extra costs, more delays, queues, shortages, less choice, less freedom, less influence, dirtier rivers, narrower horizons, ruined businesses, fewer opportunities… But why the fuck should we have to?

I’m happy for you. Tell it to Farmers, fishermen, hauliers etc. As long as it’s “I’m alright Jack”

Again, I rest my case. There are Reddit forums if you want to denigrate or be an amateur Psychologist. This is a thread for Brexit debate.

You said I sound unhinged. That implies a mental weakness. Not a very nice thing to say. I may not agree with your opinions but I am not going to question your mentality. Thats uncouth and the hiding place fir someone who cannot make an argument. Be better.

Thank you Freud. You sound not very nice. Why comment on my personality? It’s irrelevant.

Its a fair argument and I can’t argue with any of your thoughts. Its entirely reasonable. people accept these things at different times. This is a thread for Brexit discussion. In a way that Ricky Gervais dissects Karl Pilkington I am fascinated with the true Brexit believers. They are the same devout evangelicals that anti vaxxers are. They still defend it even when they see the decline of the country. Just once it would be interesting to see if they could admit it. I would have more respect for them then. Unless you refute their arguments they are destined to vote against their interests time and again

Off to watch the All Ireland now. Take a breath. Mayo for the Sam Maguire

Its a long path granted. No need for the sneering. We got a good point today btw.

No person who voted to remain will accept their jobs, freedoms, rights being diminished until we rejoin. All these were removed without our consent. Why the hell should we accept that?

Nope theres no way that can happen. The only way is for all to recognise that Brexit was an almighty mistake and then division can begin to be healed. All we hear is project fear from brexisters. “Sovrinty” doesn’t pay wages or put food on the table

Im much more in the smug cunt than the gullible fucker corner thankfully lol 😂

Happy to get out if this with a point I think. Just a disjointed mess so far. Only happy with Salisu and Stephens so far

Jesus wept 🤦‍♂️

I will never agree with your politics. I think we can agree this generation of politicians are very poor and not a patch on previous politicians of all shades. The lack of integrity in this lot is staggering and I include Oswald Farage in that. There will be a reckoning and History will not be kind.

For once I agree with you. Somehow the ERG seemed to exert control over parliament and I wholly hold the Liberal Democrat’s to blame for political games which led to a absolute shambles of a deal and that allowed Boris fucking Johnson to be the leader of the country negotiating terms. Fucking joke.

Is everything ok? Don’t believe we’ve had a communication before.

It was an advisory vote. Didn’t have to be implemented.

Great recap of polls. Shows how much of a division there is. Shows that a decision such as this should have never had a referendum in the first place. I don’t know if a division like this can be healed in the short term.

I agree with Badger here. The horse has bolted and renegotiation would not allow us the, frankly amazing, exemptions we had previously. The right wing will never accept their folly and accept responsibility for the lies they perpetrated, so we are in the position we are in. I am angry at what happened and know in my heart it was a dreadful mistake this country made. I still haven’t come to terms with it which probably shows in my posts. I think a fundamental mind shift is the only way move forward. I think a breakup of the UK is inevitable. I think the three junior partners in the union will eventually break free and become more progressive nations that accept their part as small parts in cooperation with other nations in an internationalist mindset. I fear England will go through a rather difficult rebirth. Either it will throw off its imperialist exceptionalism past and become a new outward looking nation or double down on its perception that it is better than other countries and retains its monarchy, elites and conservative instincts. I know which I hope for but can’t see which way it will go. It is only my perception and I know many will see it entirely different but there is a clear direction of travel in my eyes and anyone who thinks that the UK is a happy union and getting closer together is deluded. In my eyes Brexit has hastened this and I should be happy in this regard but I’m not. Quite a contradiction I know. Just my honest opinion. Honest debate is quite welcome. I’m really interested if idealogical brexiters are completely oblivious to this point of view. Can we accept that rejoinders are completely sincere in that they feel that leaving the EU is a retrogressive step and if you are believer in the UK it’s is more secure as an entity inside the EU influencing decision making rather than outside pissing in. Places helmet on.