imadirtyurchin

I don’t know if I would go that far that its the worst football by Saints ever - I’ve been supporting them over 30 odd years now and I’ve witnessed some shockers - even under good managers for us - losing (and travelling) to Rotherham mid-week away in the cup 1 - 0 and villa away one year without a shot the whole game to name two amongst many. The nadir loss of Forest at home under jones a particular lowlight - but it’s very very similar to Pelegrino’s borefests. Few goals/goal threat and turgid play. Even fewer clean sheets. Just a complete lack of excitement and conviction that it will ever change and we might get a convincing win. I’m no longer even dying from hope….

Any metric other than goals scored you mean?

All the possession - and we’ve barely had a shot in normal play. We needed a set piece and a dodgy penalty to score. But at least we’ll always have the possession

Classic martin-ball. All the possession, no real threat - cos it gets to the opposition final third and the players that have it most are our centre backs who shuffle it wide… and then receive it back whilst everyone else stands still being marked on the edge of the box. It’s so boring and I’m so over it. Oh, then we concede. But at least we have all the possession.

Just listened to the latest Press conference - basically said that the fans’ opinions are irrelevant - arrogant tosspot.

Easy on the eye?? 🤢 if thousands of backwards and sideways passes and not threatening their goal and then conceding possession and conceding a chance or a goal is your idea of a good time?! 😂 I get the philosophy. But it’s just not working and he’s lost. But yeah, we’ve bought championship quality - and that doesn’t help. but its just so boring atm.

I’m gonna say it. I’ve tried to be patient and fair plus understand what he’s trying to do - I acknowledge he did a pretty good job last year considering the train wreck he inherited (whilst noting our players were significantly superior to most of the league which helps.) but I want him gone. I don’t enjoy the football - there’s no goal threat, I understand the philosophy but it just doesn’t work and wont work in this league with the players we have. It’s too easy to play and score against. No, I have no idea who should come in. But I think he needs to go pretty soon.

I’ve just realised… any number 9 in the world in this team is pointless. Might as well go without and put an extra man where they will be involved… then it hit me - that’s why we play 3 at the back 😂 see im now on russ’ wavelength.

Brereton-Diaz has touched the ball about 5 times and given the ball away 4 times. (6 and 5 if you count dibling’s shot)

Feel a little sorry for Armstrong. Hes made a couple of good runs in the last few minutes and we’ve not played the pass and gone backwards.

Absolutely. But it doesn’t even seem that we sacrifice creativity for solidity. We have long periods of possession but get turned over multiple times every half and concede chance after chance to the opposition. So I wouldn’t say it’s worth it, or working.

It’s all possession and zero control of the game.

It’s just so boring and toothless. We don’t look like we even want to score let alone look likely. Another nil incoming. Unless we can actually have some shots…

Genius football from saints.

There was a chance just a couple of minutes ago to play a through ball in the final third to a midfield runner. Instead it goes backwards to the centre backs and then passed about slowly.

Just listening to the post match conference- I can’t believe (amongst many other things) that he thought archer played well?! What game was he watching??? also to get so pissy with Alfie’s question… Martin is so unlikeable at times

what I wouldn't give for saints to have a prime Beattie now - decent pace, great shot, physical presence, good in the air. decent goal scoring rate.... if a little bit streaky

I don’t know if I misunderstood. I just simply didn’t know 😂 so at an English club since 18 (continuously) except for loans I’m guessing.

If we did resign JwP - would he still count as a homegrown player? Guessing not.

Good, back to an appropriate discussion for the thread. I love JWP but he has some limitations as a player and normally I would’ve said yes in a heartbeat - but the reality is at the moment (in my opinion) he wouldn’t bring in enough extra qualities that we are short of in the first team, to justify the cost of having him here - we have other, more pressing shortfalls to address. in relation to the other debate.: “Don’t be a dick” is a good life maxim. Allow other people to live their lives however they wish if it’s with other consenting adults and isn’t actively hurting another person (real hurt not imagined transgressions). stick up for marginalised people and be an ally for people who can’t defend themselves. Basically be nicer.

I don’t think you mean to say that homophobia is banned in Islam… right? Or are you suggesting that he is a bad Muslim by practicing homophobia. It’s just all so confusing *clutches pearls*

Hard (for us) to score with the ball.

I mean it’s not difficult to just use the ignore feature and not join in or encourage a pile on.

Ings isn’t the same player that he was when he was with us. Age and injury have caught up with him - plus I don’t think he’s that motivated (Particularly to play for us) there’s reasons why he doesn’t play and doesn’t score anymore. Do not touch with a barge pole.

Tbf I think you’re taking this a bit out of context. 2 established players. Plus a reserve plus a (highly regarded - (at the time)) youngster is fine depth to play 1 role. 🤷🏼‍♂️