Nemi

Like I said, I never even said we should sign Lallana in the first place, so whats that got to do with me? Seems like you issue is based off something I didn’t even say, so again if you actually just read it in the first place you wouldn’t have this problem. So your issue with me is that someone else said something I didn’t and that’s my fault? Ok. I’ve simply replied to questions I never asked for. Yes, I sarcastically replied in jest that this stupid criteria he has made up to start a pointless argument would also rule out Kante and other midfielders, though if I ever explicitly compared Lallana and Kante, maybe you can quote where I said that? This is about if people disagree with me about Lallana, that happens so what, I just don’t need people misconstruing my comments to create an argument. I asked him where I ever said we should sign Lallana, and he can’t back it up. If not then you can stop quoting me and this pointless discussion can stop.

Because it was asked hypothetically who from Brighton would improve Southampton. I said among others Adam Lallana would improve us, but I never then went banging on about how we should definitely sign him, but for some reason people wanted to try make out I was. Funny how no-one else was called-up on this when they mentioned Dunk or White or Bissouma who we also would have no chance of signing. TBH I don’t see why I am even having to explain it.

Did I ask for people to respond with all sort of nonsense asking why I think Adam Lallana should be signed for £100p/W when all I simply said was I think he’d improve us? Errr no.

It said I was surprised that we didn’t try to sign Lallana if possible. Then someone pointed out, very helpfully as I had no idea, his wages are rumoured to be 100k p/w to which I responded ok I see why that isn’t possible then. I didn’t then say upon learning that, oh we should still sign him for 100k p/W regardless. If you just looked through the posts you would see this.

You haven’t quoted where I’ve explicitly said we should sign him for 100k. Again you’re just making stuff up. The question wasn’t, why should we sign from Brighton, it was who from Brighton would improve Southampton. You’ve just changed the argument for no reason. And no, not really, otherwise I would of said I think Lallana’s is really brilliant because he’s good at running down the clock. No I said, he would improve us because of his ball retention meaning I think he would help us retain the ball better, hence helping us keep possession under pressure.

Maybe, and this might be shocking to you, he could bring off an attacker to add him as an extra midfielder. Crazy all those things you can do in football hey?

Ok as I’ve apparently explicitly said we should pay him £100k p/W for his signing, I’m sure you would both easily be able to find that post and quote it as a reply yes? I said good ball retention and experience would be valuable in helping us hold a lead? Maybe you could also quote where I said he would simply run down the clock? Or are both of you just making up arguments in your own heads? I’ll wait for your quotes of me.

But you’re also citing an argument that calls him a goal-threat and creative as concrete evidence, but also trying to argue with me he doesn’t score or assists enough? So which one is it? Or have you scored a bit of an own goal here?

But wait you’re the one saying he should be playing at CAM? I’m not? You’re literally creating an argument against yourself ffs. Every post I said I wouldn’t play him for his goals and assists, while your harping on about playing him number 10. You should be asking why you’d want him at CAM in that case? I said I would want him for his ball retention, what do all the other comments say, oh yes they praise good ball retention. So you’ve just made yourself look an idiot more than anything, and proven the point I’m trying to hammer home - you wouldn’t have him for goals and assist playing at CAM like you’ve been trying to say, you’d have him for ball retention.

He has been playing at CM for Brighton. Look at their line-ups. He even made 30 appearances. You can look at the stats. So already you’ve been making points on assumption. I fear you are the one who is thinking about the Lallana that played for Southampton not for Brighton now. Have you watched Brighton? These are his strengths now. https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?381232-Adam-Lallana/page21&highlight=Adam+Lallana Here, you can even see for yourself many Brighton fans passing his experience and calmness on the ball.

Let’s go through what you have said: You said I don’t know where he would play. No I said it would depend on the circumstances - it is not binary, I wouldn’t play him the same way every week in place of the same player. You said I don’t know how he would improve us. Hopefully by putting it into bold you can now read. Do you need me to bold all the other posts I’ve said the same thing? I mentioned N’golo Kante because, as I mentioned, for some reason you keep bringing up goals contributions, which had nothing to do with anything I had mentioned. So sarcastically, I asked is N’golo Kante good enough to fulfill your hefty criteria? Unfortunately that went straight over your head, but if I directly compare him and Lallana I’m sure you could quote that to show me?

No idea. Depends on the circumstances, the opposition - he wouldn’t start every game, but at the very least he would of been v useful to bring on when we’re trying to hold a lead. Better ball retention, more experience could of earned us a win maybe in just 25 per cent of those games we threw away an advantage, but that would still add up to a lot of extra points. I couldn’t care a less if it’s Lallana or not though - he just happened to be the example - a player similar to him improves us and gives us something different. We all complain about how one dimensional we are but then stick our noses up at those who can offer us something different.

I said I thought Lallana would improve Southampton because he was good at retaining the ball and no-one else in the squad is. I never said he would be great because of all the goals and assists. Why you ever thought goals and assists was relevant to what I’m saying I don’t know but clearly you got worked up enough to start a strawman argument with me.

I said Lallana would improve Southampton. Since then you and the other bloke have been getting all worked up about it with strawman arguments. Not sure I ever asked you two to get so upset about a hypothetical opinion, but I guess it doesn’t take much to trigger the anti-snowflake warrior.

I said I would have him here for his ball retention and experience which would benefit us in holding a lead - something that has cost us a ridiculous amount of points this season. Given that no-one what in this squad has those abilities, it would definitely improve us, even as someone who could help us hold a lead from the bench, if in this hypothetical, he played for Southampton. Therefore, banging on with stupid arguments about goals and assists, not relevant to what I’m saying, can get a stupid reply.

So goals and assists don’t actually matter to a players worth at all then?

At Brighton he has been playing CM. But yes as no-one can work out, that is a sarcastic post because apparently his only argument is that we should base a player’s worth on goals and assists only.

Isn’t it lucky then that me saying we should sign him for 100k per week and he is the answer to our problems is something you’ve just made up in your head because you or the other bloke can’t argue against the fact that he would simply improve our team: my only point in what was a comparison between Brighton’s players and Southampton’s players. An argument based on a hypothetical and you’ve rushed in here getting all worked up about something I haven’t said.

Is this coming from the football genius who think goals and assists is the most important attribute of a CM? It was fine comparing him to Redmond a second ago but now you’re unhappy he’s up against other CMs? Start stupid arguments and you can get responses stupid enough for your level of comprehension.

And still despite all that golden boy JWP couldn’t get anywhere near him.

Well he’s been playing CM alongside Bissouma so the player who couldn’t get near him was our so-called player of the season. 1 goal, 1 assist for a centre-mid let’s see who else that world rule out then: Bissouma: 1 goal, 0 assists - oh wait you must of changed your mind about him quickly yeah? He’s crap isn’t he? Partey: 0 goals, 2 assists - wouldn’t get anywhere near our team, yeah? Kante: 0 goals, 2 assists - thank God we don’t have him. Kovacic: 0 goals, 1 assist - not good enough? Wijnaldum: 2 goals, 0 assists - no way we’ll pick him up in the summer, not good enough Saints, let Barca have him instead. Next him we try sign a CM, let’s remember to run him past you first to check they have enough goals and assists for your liking?

What a great comparison to make - an attacker v someone playing in midfield, genius. Brighton fans seem to agree that he is a class above. Not one Saints player could get anywhere near him at St Mary’s. But don’t worry let’s stick our head on the sand because we don’t like the way he left a few years ago boohoo.

Well obviously that’s why it wasn’t possible then. Doesn’t change the fact he would still vastly improve this team; he ran rings round us at St Mary’s, Brighton fans seem pretty impressed by him, and that’s with him playing in a deeper midfield position. His ability to hold onto the ball, especially under pressure, is something no-one in this squad, apart from Romeu maybe, is capable of doing. That and his experience would definitely help us say, hold on to a lead - I heard we’ve struggled to do this season?

Not that I think they are anything special but I think Groß and Trossard are less terrible than Redmond, Djenepo and Walcott and I’d certainly think we missed a trick not bringing back Lallana if there was any chance of that happening. Obviously they’ve have Lamptey too. But that defensive trio of Bissouma, Dunk and White definitely stands out.

Don’t recall ever saying it would.