Sir Ralph

Overrated show pony

There aren’t words….. Putin and Polanski would be like a mentally challenged snail negotiating with a lion

Probably yes but I think you should factor in that those countries have lost their royal families and therefore the rarity of major royal families in existence makes the UK more attractive to tourists. It may not appeal to you but to countries with a lack of such heritage (eg the US, ozzies, Canadians, South Americans, etc) this is more appealing

Thanks

You are entitled to your own opinion but I think you’re wrong on many counts and get angry when people disagree with you. When you get abusive and childish I say “cheerio”. I quote multiple more sources and articles you ever have so that is complete rubbish. I don’t tend to make these accusations at other people, only you and for a reason.Best we ignore each others posts but I’ll let you have the last word….

You will note that whenever I make a comment you attack it personally rather than engaging with the key point. Just now is a great example. Didn’t engage the point but attacked me. Look at the discussion with others just now, no abuse just different views. To my own shame I often then follow you down the childish route. If you just stick to the actual point being discussed rather than getting personal it would be better. Applies to both of us

Bloody hell we should frame this 🤣

Not really though. Odd typo from a company I am working with, which I corrected - Veritas and this. You seem more intent on picking up minor comments from me rather than engaging in any point raised. Some would call this childish. You don’t like me and I don’t like you but address substantive points.

Yep I have this time. Oh well.

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Probably needs William and Kate in charge - a break from the old. They will be seen as less associated with the Andrew stuff than Charles

We disagree on this point about the monarchy generally. Whilst you might not identify with the monarchy a large number of people associate the royal family with their British heritage and, whilst not perfect, have pride in it. Some of the biggest nation gathering events have been around the royal family and some countries would love to have such tradition. The only reason I can see you want to remove this heritage and historical institution isn’t because of any negative impact but a view that they aren’t democratically elected, albeit this view is theoretical anyway because the Royal Fmaily has no power We talked about the economic impact. There is a difference between complete speculation and estimations. The reports cannot be completely accurate as they estimate figures but it doesn’t mean those estimates aren’t broadly accurate . Yet to see evidence that they don’t have a notable positive impact on the economy from a non political source.

This is your perspective and here-say though. At least I’ve put some evidence from parties with no apparent agenda. People normally take views based on evidence and advice. Having lived abroad in a country that loved the royals with Americans who also loved the royals my perspective is different to yours.

Yes it’s not an exact science obviously but to discount it on the grounds of being pure speculation and made up would be inaccurate. I can’t see data evidence which says that the royal family has limited impact on tourism. These parties don’t appear to have an agenda so it is clear that even if they are wrong to some degree there is still a significant positive impact

Yes some would but not as many - cue the evidence provided by me above, not speculation. I assume you aren’t arguing that the numbers wouldn’t change and that the royal family doesn’t have economic value once you have reviewed the articles provided?

As equally right you were about the crown estate, you are incorrect on this. You honestly don’t think that tourists don’t come to the UK because of the Royal family? Evidence: https://bmpwealth.com/how-the-monarchy-helps-add-value-to-the-uk-economy/ https://www.regionalstudies.org/rsa-blog/blog-the-impact-of-the-uk-royal-family-on-tourism/#:~:text=Recent attempts to measure the,to be £1.766 billion.

I was wrong - you are correct

I’m off the Switzerland to use Dignitas. Put me down now

Your post wasn’t funny - you were making a poor point

No it wouldn’t. Do you understand how the government use the royal family to drum up trade interest and investment in the country as well as entertaining dignitaries whilst discussing international matters? There is a reason that the government use them regularly. The Royal Family own their palaces (Buckingham, Windsor, etc etc) and land so they could just shut them if they wanted to. That would be really good for tourism. You can’t strip them of their wealth it’s theirs. I suspect they could become richer if they were deposed as they would no longer be accountable to the public

My point was that if you are concerned about the democratic will of the people as to the royal family remaining, the outcome of any vote would likely be yes We will obviously disagree on that but I take from that that their decisions have no impact on your life or outcome. Do you know how much the royal family cost the uk taxpayer versus the income it generates? I obviously googled this. Annual cost is £86 to £132 million. Income from tourism annually estimated £500million, with broader benefits associated with media and trade influence around £1 billion to £2.5 billion per annum. Why do the royal family always get rolled out for visiting dignitaries do you think? This is before any taxes paid by the Royal family which will also contribute to the treasury We obviously come at this from different angles so fair enough

This is one of your most ill informed post yet. You clearly have no idea about tourism in the capital

But they don’t have any power and don’t align themselves with a political position. How have they made any decisions in your lifetime that have impacted you? If you spoke to the numerous charities and businesses / employees of tourism that benefit from the royal family they would highlight the positive benefit. As a whole the country wants to keep the monarchy based on polls. If there was a democratic vote on this it’s highly likely people would vote to keep it

They are off again, the self proclaimed know it all and his lackey, Mickey. Stick to the thread about Andrew chaps.