Kermitzasaint

A great coach improves his players. Who can improve a limited coach though? Martin is known for being hopeless defensively. We scraped through and gained points whilst playing poorly.

Interesting you mention being belittled. Pretty sure the name calling was directed at me also being accused of not understanding Martin's football style. I concentrate on his football, not all the pointless stuff around it. I don't understand the focus on his hair, his religion etc. The fawning on here is amusing but I don't call fans names. I think our squad is capable of promotion with a few additions in central defence. I don't think Martin has the skills to do it though. His interview after the game indicated he was happy with the performance and enjoyed it. Personally I don't think that's good enough and sends the wrong message to the team.

It may be fun but it's not the way to get promoted.

This is exactly the type of football Martin offers. I realise many fans get excited about him being well spoken, presentable and having a tough streak but it comes down to this every time.

Quite the opposite but you guys always need a target to vent at. I want us to do well. I find this defeat amusing more than anything. It's a pointless Cup but after everyone went silly over passing stat's from Fridays game this brings a little common sense back. You obviously have little idea what fury looks like and anyone who gets that way over football is a little sad.

Seeing as you're convinced I'm Jones, how do you explain my comments about Ralph years before I was signed by Ankerson? Just coincidence I guess. Ah yes , league 2. Damned small buttons on my phone whist being half asleep

How can this happen? I thought Martin had made us the new Man City and we would pass teams into oblivion? A league 1 team found him out already.

Right, so anyone who disagrees with you just doesn't understand. Well I guess all those who dislike this type of football must bow down to your so called superior intelligence and understanding.

Martin's style is well known as being divisive . It's no surprise that fans disagree. I don't quite understand the need for name calling as differing opinions are natural. If you love his style then great , good for you. If you don't then also great. Hopefully things improve and results follow. As for me never being critical of Jones? I stopped posting, Jones signing broke my will and I stopped caring. Its easier that way. Up the Saints

Best ? As in heaps of nothing football with zero end product? Tippy Tapping bollocks until we run out of space , ideas or lose the ball. It's easy to play this way if the other team let's you. We will lose more than we win with this style. Don't forget we will lose our best players, our team isn't getting stronger, it's getting weaker. If Martin produced Porn we would barely get her shirt buttons undone in 90 minutes.

Strange comment to make. My opinion isn't unusual after reading similar comments online. Also echoed by Swansea and Mk Don fans.

Excruciating game to watch. Even the pundits said the style is set to aggravate the opposing team. Well it worked. Massive possession at a snails pace meant a very ponderous attack, having to beat 11 players around their box. If this is what they're aiming for then we will not be coming straight back up again. Wednesday were awful yet still posed a threat once we lost possession. Result was positive but that was it. Meaningless passing for the sake of it.

You don't remember when certain posters were tying themselves in knots trying to argue that a striker who doesn't score goals is exactly what we needed at the time? Russell has had no success previously yet suddenly because he speaks well and can pass the ball, is exactly what we need. Its no different to marrying the local slapper at the pub, trying to convince yourself she won't shag your mates after a few drinks.

How do you get rated as the best fullback when your defence let's in so many goals?

The amount of people on here desperately trying to ignore Russell's previous record of mediocre possession based football is astounding but amusing. He is well known for his style, his 'trust the process football ', his hopeless defensive record etc yet you guys are expecting him to suddenly change everything about himself even as he tells you he won't. Its Carrillo all over again.

So out of everyone we chose an average manager from an average side who plays possession football for the sake of it and can't organise a defence. I realise a few fans are championing him but there were quite a few fans who claimed that Carrillo was a decent striker even though he had a terrible scoring record. Seems the infighting on this forum will be the most interesting thing during the next season.

Personally I think he will stay as he is too much of a coward to move teams. I also think he will struggle in the Championship as he is too soft. He would need a midfield enforcer type player to protect him. His free kicks would be useful there as the teams are of a lower standard. I also don't think he should be captain.

How many teams have put in a serious bid for him?

You realise that Selles is the one who picks the team and leaves the new signings out ?

Selles seems to love making things difficult for us. What a weak selection.

Lesson to Ankerson here is never cheap out with your coach. This monumental balls up is completely self inflicted.

So is Selles still the messiah after a single win, deserving of taking the team til the end of the season? What a mess

I really miss the days when Cortese sold the Saints project, the vision etc. Now we are supposed to be grateful for a failed and hugely limited coach because we can't get anything better. I have honestly lost all faith in the club now. I just don't have the energy to care any more.

So you remember that Ralph was absolutely awful but you blame fans that SR replaced him with a coach we all knew was awful? I don't understand your point other than desperately trying ( and failing) to appear smug. I wouldn't want Ralph back. I wouldn't want Puel, Pelligrino or any of the utterly inept managers we have had since Koeman and Poch left.

Because Ralph was better ? No Ralph was equally inept. Zero shots on target happened with him as well. I get you obviously have a thing for him but try not to rewrite history.