Kermitzasaint

What costs more, certain relegation with a failed coach and becoming a joke in Europe or hiring a better coach?

From all his direct quotes I can honestly say that I don't think he cares about the club at all. This whole thing for him is a vanity project, an opportunity for him to show how amazing he is. He will keep doing the exact same thing regardless of the results. He is solid in his belief that we will go on a winning streak. It's nonsense of course, he is exactly what fans of his previous teams say he is.

You expect fans to cheer on RM even as he completely loses it?

Let's all hope you stop then and go spend time with your disappointing other half

He obviously never met my ex wife then.

Well I think it's clear to many on here that your attempts at humour are on par with Martins coaching ability.

I'm not sending you a picture of me nobbing any type of kitchen appliance I'm afraid. Also, you don't know anything about me. You are not nearly smart enough to build an entire personality profile based off a few posts on a forum. My wife is in fact more attractive than Pinder and doesn't need to take her clothes off to make money. She is also younger than her and 11 years younger than me. She is successful and her family owns a major Newspaper. I'm sorry this bothers you, can only assume your wife is somewhat disappointing. But besides your bitterness, this is a forum about football. I don't understand your need to get personal. Discussing Saints is why we are here.

I'm aware of this. This may be a shock to you but there are hotter women than Lucy Pinder

No. My wife is way hotter than anything he could manage

Didn't want him. Still don't. Don't like him,, his tactics, his style, his hair, his stupid fitted trousers, his voice and his attitude. I want him sacked immediately and then televise Lucy dumping him. I want him mocked mercilessly as a failure and reminded that his entire ethos was a joke. Cunt.

So you think it's the players not listening to defensive instructions. OK was that the case at RM's previous teams as well? If so he is really unlucky to always end up with players who can't listen. Or maybe it's that RM can't coach a decent defence as his entire career has shown.

Can't blame the manager for making poor subs, pitiful defensive set up and abysmal tactics?

I don't want to be right. I want Saints to do their best. Russell Martin isn't currently even trying to do his best right now. If he suddenly changed everything about how he manages then great. I still won't like him but I don't need to. You happy clappers always equate a dislike for the coach to wanting us to do poorly so we can be right. The suggestion is ridiculous. I care about the club, Russell Martin is nothing to me.

Last season we had a vastly superior squad than almost all the other teams. We didn't need to be that good to scrape by. This season we are the weakest team in the league. We also have the poorest coach. RM has shown in these 4 games that he is incapable of strategy, picking a formation that works, reacting quickly, preparing and training the team. His weakest traits are still as consistent as ever. He has shown that he hasn't learnt a damned thing.

As I've mentioned previously, a great coach chooses the strategy, formation etc based on what brings the best out of his squad. A great coach can cause a team to over perform. Sadly Russell Martin is a fucking idiot. If the team available isn't capable then don't do it. Also you honestly think the team wants to make suicidal passes? It's forced on them. They know they're not allowed to clear it, that it's possession at all costs. It's not the players that are stupid. It's Russell Martin

How many post match interviews did you check to prove your point? RM has often turned on his players when the pressure is on. Same as he gets all pissy if a journalist actually asks a hard question. It's also why Alfie House from the Echo acts like a love sick puppy when asking questions. He is too afraid to risk upsetting him. I'm baffled why anyone would think he is likable.

So a 60 minute performance against a lower league side is the reason that RM will be a hero for us? Seriously?

Unfortunately once again Russell Martin has shown he isn't capable of managing at the top level. He can't react to what's happening in the game. Watching us deliberately pass backwards to bring the other team forward has become comical now. The commentators were scathing in their criticism which is good, anything to put pressure on SR to wake up and replace RM before it's too late. Saints now have a reputation and it's down to RM. It will only get worse until he is shipped out, hopefully along with Rasmus. We have a squad that can survive, but not with RM. So far the only entertainment this season has offered is GIO getting triggered in his hysterical adoration for all things RM 😅

He has been quoted saying so.

Tbh maybe he loses possession because no one else pushes up to support him. Almost as if the reason we can't see the best of him is because everyone else is playing Russball. I'm still waiting to see if RM actually improves any of our players as some fans claim he has.

Whilst most Saints fan are grateful for the investment, the thing we are not happy about is the ridiculous spending and wastage on players which are clearly not going to work. That wastage could end up being the reason they realise it's a poor investment and decide to sell up. Our scouting and signing strategies are abysmal at best. Just because it's not our money doesn't mean Dragan will want to keep throwing it away. I wouldn't if I were him.

It's not the results. It's the manner of the defeat. If we played quick attacking football and lost I wouldn't mind because at least we tried to be positive. From everything we have seen of RM and what he has done in the past I don't think that he is capable of being what we need him to be. It's not about surviving, we may go down anyway but atm we are not even playing to win. Russell Martin would rather lose his way because of his slavish obsession with his style. It's maddening.

So you saw the benefit of giving up our midfield, playing backwards slowly, playing our forwards on the very edge of the pitch with no central striker? You see the benefit of sticking to a system that's not working, making bizarre substitutions etc? Please tell me what the secrets are because RM has coached this style and pace into the team. You're saying it works when it patently doesn't. He isn't telling them to move faster. He isn't setting us up to have an effective striker. And yes, I didn't like him last season either.

If you were offered a decent keeper, decent striker or a decent coach but you can only choose two of the three. What would you choose? Russell Martin lost us that game doing exactly what he is known for on his worst days. He is out of his depth and is completely unable to change a game. Once again the same subs, need a goal? Put on Edozie who carries zero threat. Only Dibling was dangerous purely because he isn't locked in to RM's cowardly football.

I think with our current squad we could scrape survival but only with a decent coach. Today was amateur hour, a weak squad made to look worse because it was utilised terribly. I've said it before that a skilled coach makes the best out of what he has. Russell Martin lacks the skill to do that. Everything that RM has shown in his time with us shows me that he isn't capable of doing what's required to make us an effective EPL team. A better keeper and striker won't keep us up unless RM changes absolutely everything about how he coaches us. His entire philosophy only works at a lower level when his squad is better than everyone else's. RM is the problem.