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I'd be all up for seeing a pitch invasion just to make a real mockery of how shit we are.

Lighten up dude. I'm a fairweather and bloody proud of it. Much better things to spend my money on than watching that shite every week. I'm too old to care that much anymore. We all have different perspectives of life and believe me this football club ain't top of the tree for me anymore. Just worry about yourself mate. That's all that matters. Keep well.

I look at how Luton did last year. No way they have better players than us but they managed to put up a fight so 75% manager and 25% players for me but my caveat being that overall I blame the club. Several atrocious managerial appointments in succession. An abysmal failure. An embarrassment to themselves and the club.

I quite like that Archer is starting. That's all I've got.

This should be fun Which ironically works for this thread and a pisstaking motto. Win win

I know a fuck tonne of them and they're by far the most irritating fans I know. I remember a conversation I was having with a Chelsea supporting friend of mine a few years ago when Poch was in charge at spurs and he was talking about his hatred of spurs. He boiled it down this way. I don't mind the area really, I quite like their manager, don't really know about their chairman and none of the players particularly bother me, it's just that 90% of the spurs fans I know, when it comes to talking about football, are just total knobheads.

I think you've hit the nail on the head right at the end of your post. I think we've had some decent players here but they have woefully mismanaged by managers that just haven't been up to the job. Management makes all the difference. We've all seen it so many times. Anybody else seen this ? 18m for Danso. Wolves are in the market for a central defender and have set their sights on Kevin Danso of Lens. The Ligue 1 side rejected an offer of £18.5m for the Austria defender on Monday and while Wolves are prepared to increase their bid, any move could be stymied by the small problem that Danso wants to stay put for the time being after picking up an injury. “Danso doesn’t want to leave,” said the Lens manager, Will Still. “He is not sabotaging us. He hurt himself in training. He took the ball on his ankle, which twisted and it pulled on his knee.”

I think you've hit the nail on the head right at the end of your post. I think we've had some decent players here but they have woefully mismanaged by managers that just haven't been up to the job. Management makes all the difference. We've all seen it so many times.

Question is.......if we reach 12 points can we have a pitch invasion ?

Will be very happy to be proved wrong but.........another 5 incoming?

I can see the red and white caps now

I totally agree. I'm nearly 50 and for me there are much more important things in life. I've lost people close to me and that always puts things into perspective but for those of you who are feeling embarrassed maybe this will help. For me, I look at our results or how shite we've been for such a long time and I'm able to remove the emotion of it from my life by telling myself that's it's not me. It's not me going onto the pitch. It's not me hiring Nathan jones or pelegrino or buying Delgado or any other useless idiot. It's not my mistakes that make this club look stupid so therefore I feel no embarrassment for someone else's decisions. I'm actually relieved I get to blame someone else. It's not me making an idiot of myself. If it were down to me then I'd have anger or embarrassment or whatever you want to call it. For me now its just a shrug of the shoulders and sometimes a chuckle but I know it's not the same for everyone. I think my age helps a lot with that.

Who has ramsdale been linked with ?

Yeah I'm with you. Of course I'm pissed off - like everyone else on here - that we didn't hold on for something and the game has just finished so it feels raw, but that first 60 minutes was the best I've enjoyed all season. There was a lot to like about that performance and we all know we're going down but I'd like to think from what we've seen from the last few games we can reach the magic, almighty total of 12 points. That's the dream.

Sorry but i have to ask, are points 2 3 and 4 genuinely true or was that just a pissed off rant for which I don't blame you.