This Charming Man

Yes.

Watford is south of Oxford, so I'm not sure what relevance your post has.

So why use them in your original comparison?

And? I originally said if you wanted to take in Coke, you technically weren't allowed and must take in Pepsi which is what that article supports. Of course if you wanted to take a pork pie in you're allowed as Pepsi have no commercial interests in pork pies. I can't remember how rigorous they were with the searches, I always take in more booze than you're allowed so where there's a will, there's a way. The point I was making was they actually made the ridiculous rules in the first place. I assume as you know so much about this letter, you received one as well?

Of course it's improved. People like to jump on a bandwagon. As I said, the test comes when you're not doing well - in the past when we've not being doing well, our support has been sh*t.

Surely they'd already be counted in the total? Or do they take the attendance from the amount of people through the turnstiles?

It's alright. Not good, not great.

We were allocted 2,700 tickets for Derby and we only sold 2,611. We didn't sell out.

I don't know if it was enforced but the very fact they sent a letter out in the first place was bad enough!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-315762/The-end-cricket-picnic.html

No we didn't. Derby and Leicester were close, but they still didn't sell out. There were a few hundred empty seats at Forest.

Trust me, I don't think that. I spend most of my time on here trying to remind people we're not a big club. I just find people banging on about our support amusing, when it's really nothing special.

Never used to publish them back in our Prem days, so I'm going from memory. My memory being that they were always sold out.

But they weren't going for promotion so it doesn't compare.

I've only once bought a ticket for an away game on the day and then was Mansfield when it was only pay on the turnstile. I always know if I'm going or not in advance.

If Leeds could've got promoted there, they would've sold the Riverside out themselves.

Why did that never effect sales for WHL, Highbury, The Valley, Sellhurst etc then?

About the last 20 years.

Were we in a recession 10 years ago when our away support was also sh*t?

So around 1,000 (that being the amount of people that would've raised the attendance to a respectable number) people bought tickets but decided not to bother?

Me.

You're kind of proving my point... Ah, the weather. I was wondering how long it would be until someone wheeled that gem out. I wasn't aware that everyone knew 3 weeks in advance it was going to snow that day in Birmingham.

That's how modern sponsorship works unfortunately. I attended the England v Sri Lanka ICC Champions Trophy game at the Rosebowl years ago and received a letter advising me I wasn't allowed to take in Coca-Cola and I wasn't allowed to wear any Nike, Reebok or other sport brands clothing. This was because Adidas and Pepsi were two of the main sponsors. McDonalds don't sponsor events to get their brand out there. Everyone knows who they are already. They do it so Burger King can't sponsor it.

Correct. How many games South of Oxford did we sell out? Every single one. The support is there, just as long as it doesn't involve too much effort.

How many games last season (probably one of the best seasons in our history), North of Oxford did we sell out?