bridge too far

I guess it depends on how you value 'Great'. :smt102 Great at sport Great at war Great at the performing arts Great at invention Great at democracy and civil liberties Dunno :confused:

But we don't put to death people with terminal illnesses (yet), do we. And physical terminal illnesses eventually directly cause death anyway whereas mental illnesses don't directly, although they can by association (e.g. suicide). There is always the risk that people might be executed for a crime they didn't commit. How would you feel if you or yours were set up and accused of a capital crime that you hadn't committed but were sentenced to death? There have been loads of cases in the past of innocent people executed. And you don't answer the most salient point: if killing is a crime how can we kill for the sake of retribution? Isn't that hypocritical?

See Influenced! MB can MATCH you every time.

For when they have Fire Sales?

LOL - fair play St L! I don't think that would work so well for me. I'm a dancer and an auditor. I would be very surprised if the NHS / local councils decided to book me to perform because they didn't have any audit work for me

I'm with Robsk here. Some people who commit atrocious crimes are ill and should received treatment for their mental illness in the same way as any human being should receive treatment for any physical illness. However, there are people who commit crimes knowing that they're doing wrong. Because killing is evil, no-one should ever kill anyone be it on purpose or as a punishment. Society can't say killing is wrong and then carry out killing. That's sheer hypocrisy. But a deterrent IS needed. I would find the thought of being locked up for the rest of my life far, far more likely to deter me from committing such a crime than the thought of 'being put out of my misery'. That's the easy way out IMO.

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7683826.stm

If you don't hurry to A & E you might end up with a DEAD bol-LOCK :shock:

Easier said than done, though. Although I understand that, in the UK, employers are to be paid for training their staff in other skills, ready for the upturn if / when it comes. This is happening already in the motor manufacturing industry apparently, because the manufacturers recognise from past experience that there will be a skill shortage once demand picks up. The thing that saddened me about the article was that the poor chap needed eye treatment but couldn't afford to pay for it. It's easy to say 'he should have put something by for such an eventuality' but how many of us do?

You should BOLT down to A & E IMO.

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7681978.stm This makes me realise that the UK, with all its faults, is an infinitely kinder and nicer place to live. I'm proud to be a UK citizen.

Whole page of Spurs jokes here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/21/tottenham-hotspur-jokes

- the best one IMO

Oi! Stop c::ck - we've done this one to death

Listening to the traffic reports on the radio every morning, it seems to me that there are certain parts of some motorways that are often closed because of accidents. The M40 around Bicester regularly (almost daily it seems) has problems and there are loads more. I wonder if accident investigators ever ask themselves 'why?'

Police said the crash appeared to have happened in heavy, slow traffic caused by an accident two hours earlier on the same stretch of motorway. Mr Myers, a former Widnes and Great Britain Rugby League player, was killed in the earlier accident between Junction 17 at Sandbach and Junction 18 for Holmes Chapel What a dreadful, awful night

Predictable IMO I think Winston Churchill was black too, wasn't he :smt102

"Everyone knows I have done part of my coaching badges," he said. "I have not done the pro licence yet, which is mandatory, but I will do it at some stage in the future. I have said it before and I will say it again, management interests me." Shearer, however, was careful not to be seen to be actively touting for a role currently filled, on a temporary basis, by Joe Kinnear. "I cannot say I would be delighted to come here, because that would be wrong of me," he added. "I can't say where it might happen and I can't say it would be here. Five days is a long time at this football club." and the rest at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/21/premierleague-newcastleunited1

Why do news reports always say 'given birth to a BABY boy /girl / whatever'? I think even the dumbest of us realise that no-one will give birth to a full grown boy / girl / whatever FFS :mad:

Bit harsh IMO if they're on their feet all day.

'Tis being broadcast on Radio 5 Live Xtra tonight FYI

And I'm with you and him, then. I WANT ONE NOW just like I always do when I see that Piers Morgan M & S advert =P~

Ar*e Oh - perhaps you were really asking the question :shock: They're saying that historians will have to compare the signature with Nelson's known signature. But of course, this won't be done until after Trafalgar Day by which time loads of Poopey mongs will have forked out for a meal in his pub LOL

Looks like nothing will happen Pompey escape scrutiny Alexandre Gaydamak's ownership of Portsmouth will not come under any fresh scrutiny from the Premier League despite weekend reports that he has personally been named in court documents relating to a trial in Paris in which his father Arkadi is said to have been a central figure in allegedly illegal arms deals to Angola. The Premier League is confident that its recent research into Gaydamak junior's assurances that he alone is the ultimate controlling shareholder of the Fratton Park club still holds. From the Guardian 'Digger' column - 3rd para down. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/oct/21/premierleague-portsmouth

I may be old but I can still bend better than most of you lot :cool: